From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 00:01:27 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1435 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Tuesday 06 February 2007 Number 1435 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 Re: eComStation compatible "all in one" motherboard. : nickl at pacific dot net dot au 2 Re: eComStation compatible "all in one" motherboard. : Ed Durrant 3 Re: eComStation compatible "all in one" motherboard. : Michael/Gail Peters" 4 Re: eComStation compatible "all in one" motherboard. : Ed Durrant 5 Re: eComStation compatible 'all in one' motherboard. : Voytek Eymont" 6 Re: eComStation compatible 'all in one' motherboard. : Voytek Eymont" 7 Re: eComStation compatible 'all in one' motherboard. : Ed Durrant 8 Re: eComStation compatible 'all in one' motherboard. : Voytek Eymont" 9 Re: eComStation compatible 'all in one' motherboard. : Mike O'Connor 10 Re: eComStation compatible "all in one" motherboard. : Michael/Gail Peters" 11 Re: eComStation compatible 'all in one' motherboard. : Ed Durrant 12 Re: eComStation compatible 'all in one' motherboard. : Ed Durrant 13 Re: eComStation compatible "all in one" motherboard. : Alan Duval **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 00:28:17 +1100 (EST) From: nickl at pacific dot net dot au Subject: Re: eComStation compatible "all in one" motherboard. Hi All. This is my very first mail out on my new TVM motherboard. I have had no time to configure everything yet. First impressions are really good. As our assemblers at Austin STILL left Windows on there, I just deleted it, then installed. I did get a strange Disk Space Total (about 65GiB) when installing eCs 1.2, but on a later version... eCs2.0b2m3a...the correct size of 153MiB came up (A Samsung 160MiB HDD). Installation was fine in both cases....everything worked, and it can see the DWL-G520 no problems. I've been sent to bed, so more tomorrow. Thanks again, Ed. Regards NICK > Hi Michael, > Are you going to buy just the motherboard and assemble your own, or > buy the system built ? > > I really couldn't justify building it myself at the price the > complete system was offered for from www.ccpu dot com dot au - tell Richard it's > for OS/2 and he'll make sure he doesn't put an incompatible Video card > in it (you can run video off the motherboard with SCITECH anyway). I've > just got a Gigabit badged ATI X550 card and it runs fine. > > Mine I have OS/2 Warp 4, OS/2 Warp 4 CP2, eCS 1.2 and eCS 2.0 running > on it - no issues with any kernel ... BUT only in single core mode at > present - I haven't been able to get SMP working yet, but that's more > down to multiple pieces of information on changes that are needed rather > than a particular incompatibility. > > I need to tell you however, that several users have complained about > the performance of the board - but these were Windows users - I am very > happy with the performance and above all the quietness of the whole system > ! > > Cheers/2 > > Ed. > > Michael/Gail Peters wrote: >> Ed, >> I am about to purchase one of these. Any problem with the >> dual core? What kernel ? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Mike >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Durrant" >> >> To: ; ; >> >> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 8:54 PM >> Subject: eComStation compatible "all in one" motherboard. >> >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> As I know we often have to "make do" with one or other integrated >>> feature on a motherboard not working under eComStation, I wanted to >>> point out a current motherboard with Dual Core AMD64 processor >>> support with integrated Video, LAN, sound, USB, SATA and EIDE - ALL >>> of which work under eCS. I won't say all functions will be available, >>> but it works "out of the box" - tested with the eComStation 1.2 Demo >>> CD and I'm about to install eCS 2.0 Beta 3 on the system, so I'll let >>> you know how well the AMD 64 X2 4200+ Dual Core works then as well ! >>> >>> The motherboard is the ASUS M2V-TVM. >>> >>> It supports 1 PCI-express X16 slot, one PCI-express X1 slot and two >>> standard PCI slots in its micro-ATX format. >>> >>> The chipset (and hence on-board I/O) is VIA VT8237R and works fine >>> using the DANI drivers. >>> >>> Audio is Realtek ALC655 which works fine with UNIAUD. >>> >>> LAN is Realtek RTL8100C which is picked up by GENPAK without problems.. >>> >>> Onboard video is VIA Deltachrome, which the SciTech drivers work with.. >>> >>> USB, parrallel, Serial, Keyboard and mouse all work fine with the >>> standard IBM drivers. >>> >>> Unfortuantely the supplier substituted a "better" video card than I >>> ordered which isn't SciTech, so I will need to get that exchanged >>> however I can run fine off the on-board video until I get that sorted >>> out. >>> >>> Cheers/2 >>> >>> Ed. >>> >>> >> > >> >> > >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 06:57:18 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: eComStation compatible "all in one" motherboard. Michael/Gail Peters wrote: > Ed, > > I have a price for just the mo board, chip, 1Gb memory and case from > the mob I bought the Kyocera fs820. The figures are out in the shed with > my pulled down OS/2 and eCS 1.2 box . I'm going to upgrade to 2.0. > > I'll give them to you tomorrow or the next day. It's late now but I > need to know what to do about my scsi scanner driver so I'll give > details then. > Thanks, > Mike > > > One thing about the ASUS M2V-TVM (note the ASUS M2V-TVM is a different board to the M2V-TVM) is that it is a Mucro-ATX board and only has two PCI slots. It has however also a PCI-e X16 (for the video card) and a PCI-e X1 - which apparently can support Network or SCSI adapter cards, if you can find these in X1 format. There's plenty of USB 2.0 sockets though (up to eight), so if your scanner has USB and it's supported by SANE/2 as a USB scanner, that could be an option, otherwise you'll need to use one of the PCI slots to put in an OS/2 compatible SCSI card with the appropraiate connector for your SCSI cable to your scanner. Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 07:58:26 +1100 From: "Michael/Gail Peters" Subject: Re: eComStation compatible "all in one" motherboard. Ed, I have lost your mailing of yesterday. My quote from IStore was mo board $79, cpu $259 Box $80 and ram 1gb $139. My problem is an old ISA scsi card (adaptec 15XX .....cant remember). I hope I can get something in pci. In a rush.... Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Durrant" To: ; ; Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 8:54 PM Subject: eComStation compatible "all in one" motherboard. > Hi, > > As I know we often have to "make do" with one or other integrated feature > on a motherboard not working under eComStation, I wanted to point out a > current motherboard with Dual Core AMD64 processor support with integrated > Video, LAN, sound, USB, SATA and EIDE - ALL of which work under eCS. I > won't say all functions will be available, but it works "out of the box" - > tested with the eComStation 1.2 Demo CD and I'm about to install eCS 2.0 > Beta 3 on the system, so I'll let you know how well the AMD 64 X2 4200+ > Dual Core works then as well ! > > The motherboard is the ASUS M2V-TVM. > > It supports 1 PCI-express X16 slot, one PCI-express X1 slot and two > standard PCI slots in its micro-ATX format. > > The chipset (and hence on-board I/O) is VIA VT8237R and works fine using > the DANI drivers. > > Audio is Realtek ALC655 which works fine with UNIAUD. > > LAN is Realtek RTL8100C which is picked up by GENPAK without problems. > > Onboard video is VIA Deltachrome, which the SciTech drivers work with. > > USB, parrallel, Serial, Keyboard and mouse all work fine with the standard > IBM drivers. > > Unfortuantely the supplier substituted a "better" video card than I > ordered which isn't SciTech, so I will need to get that exchanged however > I can run fine off the on-board video until I get that sorted out. > > Cheers/2 > > Ed. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 08:31:37 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: eComStation compatible "all in one" motherboard. The Adaptec 15xx series was the cut down - one external device only ISA card. You should look for a PCI 29xx series with the same type of interface - (not LVD I think). Probably check e-Bay as these are old cards. Cheers/2 Ed. Michael/Gail Peters wrote: > Ed, > > I have lost your mailing of yesterday. > My quote from IStore was mo board $79, cpu $259 Box $80 and > ram 1gb $139. My problem is an old ISA scsi card (adaptec 15XX > ....cant remember). I hope I can get something in pci. > In a rush.... > > Mike > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Durrant" > To: ; ; > > Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 8:54 PM > Subject: eComStation compatible "all in one" motherboard. > > >> Hi, >> >> As I know we often have to "make do" with one or other integrated >> feature on a motherboard not working under eComStation, I wanted to >> point out a current motherboard with Dual Core AMD64 processor >> support with integrated Video, LAN, sound, USB, SATA and EIDE - ALL >> of which work under eCS. I won't say all functions will be available, >> but it works "out of the box" - tested with the eComStation 1.2 Demo >> CD and I'm about to install eCS 2.0 Beta 3 on the system, so I'll let >> you know how well the AMD 64 X2 4200+ Dual Core works then as well ! >> >> The motherboard is the ASUS M2V-TVM. >> >> It supports 1 PCI-express X16 slot, one PCI-express X1 slot and two >> standard PCI slots in its micro-ATX format. >> >> The chipset (and hence on-board I/O) is VIA VT8237R and works fine >> using the DANI drivers. >> >> Audio is Realtek ALC655 which works fine with UNIAUD. >> >> LAN is Realtek RTL8100C which is picked up by GENPAK without problems. >> >> Onboard video is VIA Deltachrome, which the SciTech drivers work with. >> >> USB, parrallel, Serial, Keyboard and mouse all work fine with the >> standard IBM drivers. >> >> Unfortuantely the supplier substituted a "better" video card than I >> ordered which isn't SciTech, so I will need to get that exchanged >> however I can run fine off the on-board video until I get that sorted >> out. >> >> Cheers/2 >> >> Ed. > >> >> > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 08:45:12 +1100 (EST) From: "Voytek Eymont" Subject: Re: eComStation compatible 'all in one' motherboard. > The Adaptec 15xx series was the cut down - one external device only ISA > card. You should look for a PCI 29xx series with the same type of interface AFAIR, 1520 had no boot support, 1540 was bootable and, 7 devices, internal or external I don't recall it 15xx being cut down in any way ofcourse, I could be wrong... -- Voytek ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 08:51:46 +1100 (EST) From: "Voytek Eymont" Subject: Re: eComStation compatible 'all in one' motherboard. > > > >> The Adaptec 15xx series was the cut down - one external device only ISA >> card. You should look for a PCI 29xx series with the same type of >> interface > AFAIR, 1520 had no boot support, 1540 was bootable > and, 7 devices, internal or external > I don't recall it 15xx being cut down in any way found this description, though, I still think 1520 didNOT have BIOS, 1540 did ------ Adaptec AHA 1520B General Device Type: Storage controller - SCSI - plug-in card Interface Type: ISA Depth: 17.5 cm Height: 6.1 cm Compatibility: PC Storage Controller Controller Interface Type: Fast SCSI Data Transfer Rate: 10 MBps Supported Devices: Hard drive, tape drive, removable media drive, CD drive, DVD drive, scanner Channel Qty: 1 Max Storage Devices Qty: 7 BIOS Type / Vendor: Adaptec Expansion / Connectivity Provided Interfaces: * 1 x storage - Fast SCSI - 50 PIN IDC ( internal ) * 1 x storage - Fast SCSI - 50 pin HD D-Sub (HD-50) ( external ) Compatible Slots: 1 x ISA Miscellaneous Package Type: Retail Manufacturer's product description AHA-1520B is ideal for connecting hard drives and other high-performance SCSI peripherals to your PC. Today's rapid growth in file sizes - thanks to multimedia, new software applications, and the Internet - requires larger hard drives, file servers, and high-performance peripherals for storing this information. The AHA-1520B host adapter provides the ideal solution for connecting these devices to a PC. It features 10 MB/sec synchronous burst rate on the SCSI bus, easy Plug-and-Play installation. Software / System Requirements Software Included: Drivers & Utilities OS Required: Microsoft DOS, UnixWare 2.x, Microsoft Windows 3.x/95/98, Microsoft Windows NT 3.51 or later, Novell NetWare 3.12 or later, IBM OS/2 2.x or later, SCO Unix 3.2.x Manufacturer Warranty Service & Support: 5 years warranty Service & Support Details: Limited warranty - replacement - 5 years - bring-In ------ -- Voytek ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 7 ==========================** Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 09:30:17 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: eComStation compatible 'all in one' motherboard. Voytek Eymont wrote: > > > > >> >> >> >>> The Adaptec 15xx series was the cut down - one external device only ISA >>> card. You should look for a PCI 29xx series with the same type of >>> interface >>> > > >> AFAIR, 1520 had no boot support, 1540 was bootable >> and, 7 devices, internal or external >> I don't recall it 15xx being cut down in any way >> > > found this description, though, I still think 1520 didNOT have BIOS, 1540 did > > ------ > Adaptec AHA 1520B > General > > Device Type: Storage controller - SCSI - plug-in card > Interface Type: ISA > Depth: 17.5 cm > Height: 6.1 cm > Compatibility: PC > Storage Controller > Controller Interface Type: Fast SCSI > Data Transfer Rate: 10 MBps > > Supported Devices: Hard drive, tape drive, removable media drive, CD > drive, DVD drive, scanner > > Channel Qty: 1 > Max Storage Devices Qty: 7 > BIOS Type / Vendor: Adaptec > Expansion / Connectivity > Provided Interfaces: > * 1 x storage - Fast SCSI - 50 PIN IDC ( internal ) > * 1 x storage - Fast SCSI - 50 pin HD D-Sub (HD-50) ( external ) > > Compatible Slots: 1 x ISA > Miscellaneous > Package Type: Retail > Manufacturer's product description > AHA-1520B is ideal for connecting hard drives and other high-performance > SCSI peripherals to your PC. Today's rapid growth in file sizes - thanks > to multimedia, new software applications, and the Internet - requires > larger hard drives, file servers, and high-performance peripherals for > storing this information. The AHA-1520B host adapter provides the ideal > solution for connecting these devices to a PC. It features 10 MB/sec > synchronous burst rate on the SCSI bus, easy Plug-and-Play installation. > Software / System Requirements > > Software Included: Drivers & Utilities > > OS Required: Microsoft DOS, UnixWare 2.x, Microsoft Windows 3.x/95/98, > Microsoft Windows NT 3.51 or later, Novell NetWare 3.12 or later, IBM OS/2 > 2.x or later, SCO Unix 3.2.x > Manufacturer Warranty > Service & Support: 5 years warranty > Service & Support Details: Limited warranty - replacement - 5 years - > bring-In > ------ > Hi Voytek - so what is needed is a Fast SCSI (10Mb/s) PCI adaptec card - he doesn't need Bios boot as this is only to attach an external scanner. Perhaps this 2906 is the equivalent in PCI: http://www.adaptec dot com/en-US/products/scsi_cards/entry/AVA-2906/ Need to check if it has OS/2 drivers of course - and check the connector is correct for the existing cable. Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 8 ==========================** Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 10:08:09 +1100 (EST) From: "Voytek Eymont" Subject: Re: eComStation compatible 'all in one' motherboard. > Voytek Eymont wrote: > Hi Voytek - so what is needed is a Fast SCSI (10Mb/s) PCI adaptec card - > he doesn't need Bios boot as this is only to attach an external scanner.. > > Perhaps this 2906 is the equivalent in PCI: > > > http://www.adaptec dot com/en-US/products/scsi_cards/entry/AVA-2906/ > > > Need to check if it has OS/2 drivers of course - and check the connector > is correct for the existing cable. 2940 U/UW all work with OS/2 ( I use them), presumedly, all 29xx would do....? with 2940xx something I'm running **all** three busses: internal narrow (CD), internal wide(HD), external(scanner) (which was not possible with earlier controllers) -- Voytek ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 9 ==========================** Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 09:20:57 +1000 From: Mike O'Connor Subject: Re: eComStation compatible 'all in one' motherboard. Voytek Eymont wrote: > > >> Voytek Eymont wrote: >> > > >> Hi Voytek - so what is needed is a Fast SCSI (10Mb/s) PCI adaptec card - >> he doesn't need Bios boot as this is only to attach an external scanner. >> >> Perhaps this 2906 is the equivalent in PCI: >> >> >> http://www.adaptec dot com/en-US/products/scsi_cards/entry/AVA-2906/ >> >> >> Need to check if it has OS/2 drivers of course - and check the connector >> is correct for the existing cable. >> > > > 2940 U/UW all work with OS/2 ( I use them), presumedly, all 29xx would do...? > > with 2940xx something I'm running **all** three busses: > > internal narrow (CD), internal wide(HD), external(scanner) > (which was not possible with earlier controllers) > > Hi Guys, And there are plenty of 2940U/UW models on eBay currently - or at least there were a day or so back, if Mike doesn't need it immediately. Regards, Mike ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 10 ==========================** Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 17:05:59 +1100 From: "Michael/Gail Peters" Subject: Re: eComStation compatible "all in one" motherboard. Well... thank you everyone. I am just back from Melbourne and all this mail... The Adaptec card I have is an AVA-1505. I bought it in 1996 to drive my Impos/2 compatible (Microtek E2) scanner. The only driver that would work it was AIC 6360 v2.1 of 960709. IBM changed it later that year and I have always had to preserve a copy of this driver for transfer to upgrades. So it is a sensitivity with me :-). In summary: Me: My problem is an old ISA scsi card (adaptec 15XX .....cant remember). I hope I can get something in pci. Ed: The Adaptec 15xx series was the cut down - one external device only ISA card. You should look for a PCI 29xx series ... Voytek: 2940 U/UW all work with OS/2 ( I use them), presumedly, all 29xx would do...? with 2940xx something I'm running **all** three busses: Mike O'C there are plenty of 2940U/UW models on eBay currently Peter Allen: Mike, Have an AHA-2940AU available for cost of p&p - 50 pin Honda (medium density) external - details Adaptec site - says it's still current! Ian Manners has later drivers than Adaptec site - you may have them with ECS - at FP15 here. From all of the excellent info I'll take up Peter's offer and give the 2940 a go. If it doesn't work I can always keep the old box just for the scanner which I am frequently using. Peter, I see you have a netspace address as I did when I lived in Melbourne. I'll write you off-forum to bed down the details. os2genau never ceases to surprise me... Thanks, Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael/Gail Peters" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 7:58 AM Subject: Re: eComStation compatible "all in one" motherboard. > Ed, > > I have lost your mailing of yesterday. > My quote from IStore was mo board $79, cpu $259 Box $80 and > ram 1gb $139. My problem is an old ISA scsi card (adaptec 15XX > ....cant remember). I hope I can get something in pci. > In a rush.... > > Mike > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ed Durrant" > To: ; ; > > Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 8:54 PM > Subject: eComStation compatible "all in one" motherboard. > > >> Hi, >> >> As I know we often have to "make do" with one or other integrated >> feature on a motherboard not working under eComStation, I wanted to point >> out a current motherboard with Dual Core AMD64 processor support with >> integrated Video, LAN, sound, USB, SATA and EIDE - ALL of which work >> under eCS. I won't say all functions will be available, but it works "out >> of the box" - tested with the eComStation 1.2 Demo CD and I'm about to >> install eCS 2.0 Beta 3 on the system, so I'll let you know how well the >> AMD 64 X2 4200+ Dual Core works then as well ! >> >> The motherboard is the ASUS M2V-TVM. >> >> It supports 1 PCI-express X16 slot, one PCI-express X1 slot and two >> standard PCI slots in its micro-ATX format. >> >> The chipset (and hence on-board I/O) is VIA VT8237R and works fine using >> the DANI drivers. >> >> Audio is Realtek ALC655 which works fine with UNIAUD. >> >> LAN is Realtek RTL8100C which is picked up by GENPAK without problems. >> >> Onboard video is VIA Deltachrome, which the SciTech drivers work with. >> >> USB, parrallel, Serial, Keyboard and mouse all work fine with the >> standard IBM drivers. >> >> Unfortuantely the supplier substituted a "better" video card than I >> ordered which isn't SciTech, so I will need to get that exchanged however >> I can run fine off the on-board video until I get that sorted out. >> >> Cheers/2 >> >> Ed. > >> > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 11 ==========================** Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 19:34:12 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: eComStation compatible 'all in one' motherboard. Mike O'Connor wrote: > Voytek Eymont wrote: >> >> >>> Voytek Eymont wrote: >>> >> >> >>> Hi Voytek - so what is needed is a Fast SCSI (10Mb/s) PCI adaptec >>> card - >>> he doesn't need Bios boot as this is only to attach an external >>> scanner. >>> >>> Perhaps this 2906 is the equivalent in PCI: >>> >>> >>> http://www.adaptec dot com/en-US/products/scsi_cards/entry/AVA-2906/ >>> >>> >>> Need to check if it has OS/2 drivers of course - and check the >>> connector >>> is correct for the existing cable. >>> >> >> >> 2940 U/UW all work with OS/2 ( I use them), presumedly, all 29xx >> would do...? >> >> with 2940xx something I'm running **all** three busses: >> >> internal narrow (CD), internal wide(HD), external(scanner) >> (which was not possible with earlier controllers) >> >> > Hi Guys, > > And there are plenty of 2940U/UW models on eBay currently - or at > least there were a day or so back, if Mike doesn't need it immediately. > > Regards, > Mike > > > I think 2940U or UW are ultrawide connection ? - Michael needs a card with a Fast-SCSI 10Mb/s interface - I suspect a DB25 connector ? It may be that he will have to buy a suitable cable and they can cost more than the card ! I guess it'd be good to know what the Scanner is ? Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 12 ==========================** Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 20:05:29 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: eComStation compatible 'all in one' motherboard. Mike O'Connor wrote: > Voytek Eymont wrote: >> >> >>> Voytek Eymont wrote: >>> >> >> >>> Hi Voytek - so what is needed is a Fast SCSI (10Mb/s) PCI adaptec >>> card - >>> he doesn't need Bios boot as this is only to attach an external >>> scanner. >>> >>> Perhaps this 2906 is the equivalent in PCI: >>> >>> >>> http://www.adaptec dot com/en-US/products/scsi_cards/entry/AVA-2906/ >>> >>> >>> Need to check if it has OS/2 drivers of course - and check the >>> connector >>> is correct for the existing cable. >>> >> >> >> 2940 U/UW all work with OS/2 ( I use them), presumedly, all 29xx >> would do...? >> >> with 2940xx something I'm running **all** three busses: >> >> internal narrow (CD), internal wide(HD), external(scanner) >> (which was not possible with earlier controllers) >> >> > Hi Guys, > > And there are plenty of 2940U/UW models on eBay currently - or at > least there were a day or so back, if Mike doesn't need it immediately. > > Regards, > Mike > > > OS/2 Drivers - 2940 series and the 290X Series: http://adaptec-tic.adaptec dot com/cgi-bin/adaptec_tic.cfg/php/enduser/popup_adp.php?p_sid=wpNaWxti&p_lva=&p_li=&p_faqid=5552&p_created=1047513600&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MyZwX3Byb2RzPTAmcF9jYXRzPTUyNSZwX3B2PSZwX2N2PTEuNTI1OzIudTAmcF9zZWFyY2hfdHlwZT1hbnN3ZXJzLnNlYXJjaF9ubCZwX3BhZ2U9MSZwX3NlYXJjaF90ZXh0PTI5MDQ* And to check the connectors: http://adaptec-tic.adaptec dot com/cgi-bin/adaptec_tic.cfg/php/enduser/popup_adp.php?p_sid=brN*Wxti&p_lva=&p_li=&p_faqid=8956&p_created=1055880824&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MyZwX3Byb2RzPTAmcF9jYXRzPTUyNSZwX3B2PSZwX2N2PTEuNTI1OzIudTAmcF9zZWFyY2hfdHlwZT1hbnN3ZXJzLnNlYXJjaF9ubCZwX3BhZ2U9MSZwX3NlYXJjaF90ZXh0PTI5MDQ*&p_search_text=2904 Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 13 ==========================** Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 11:51:56 +1100 From: Alan Duval Subject: Re: eComStation compatible "all in one" motherboard. Hi Mike, I had the same problem when I upgraded a year ago and got an Adaptec AVA-2906 card. My HP 4P Scanner works OK with the AIC7870.ADD and using TAME. Regards, Alan Duval ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------