From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 00:01:01 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1472 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Thursday 05 April 2007 Number 1472 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 Re: Information on the Mozilla suite of browsers / email clients etc. : Ed Durrant 2 Seamonkey and Flash : Ed Durrant 3 Re: Seamonkey and Flash - correction : Ed Durrant 4 Re: Seamonkey and Flash : Kris Steenhaut 5 Re: Seamonkey and Flash : Ed Durrant 6 Re: Seamonkey and Flash : Kris Steenhaut 7 Re: Config.SYS was Seamonkey and Flash : John Angelico" 8 Re: Config.SYS was Seamonkey and Flash : Kris Steenhaut **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 08:45:25 +0000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Information on the Mozilla suite of browsers / email clients etc. Peter Moylan wrote: > Ed Durrant wrote: >> Kris Steenhaut wrote: >>> Ed Durrant ha scritto: >>>> Does anyone know of a website or user manuals to describe how to >>>> customise these programs. >>>> >>>> I am switching to SeaMonkey from Firefox and Thunderbird and >>>> configuration is different. >>>> >>>> In particular I want to add a "File" icon to the Seamonkey mail >>>> client toolbar >>> Could you be a bit more specific? Never have had Tb, so I don't >>> know exactly what you mean. >>> >> As per my other e-mail - I found this setting in Preferences, however >> on Thunderbird, you simply RMB on the toolbar and select icons to >> add, rather than going into the general settings. > > Could you let us know, once you're used to it, whether the switch was > worthwhile? The original aim of the Mozilla project, as I recall it, was > to get rid of all the "bloat" features of Netscape and go back to a pure > web browser, uncluttered by things like integrated mail and news and so > on. I guess the SeaMonkey project was motivated by the observation that > Firefox and Thunderbird ended up bloated anyway, so they might as well > be combined to avoid code duplication. Does SeaMonkey save a lot of disk > and main memory space over the combination of Thunderbird and Mozilla > running together? I must admit that I'm getting sick of the feature > bloat and would appreciate finding something more compact. It's reaching > the point where, even with a 400 MHz processor and 128MB of main memory, > I get frequent annoyances (especially with Thunderbird) where the > WPS just hangs for about 10-60 seconds, so I'm on the lookout for a > better solution. > I'm still keeping an open mind whether separate FF and TB are better than SM however the TB/FF setup has to have either a CMD file with libpathstrict or the run! program to stop conflicts between like named but different DLLs. SM doesn't have this issue. Also I have so many versions of FF and TB loaded that I ppear to be getting issues with old DLLs when I try to install plugins such as Flash, so one advantage of going to a new install of SM is that I can then remove all traces of FF & TB and then see if I can get the plugins I require to work under SM. I am presently running only SM - the transfer of mailboxes was "interesting" but with the data from the site that Kris gave the link to, it was possible. So far I haven't had any hangs or the like, but I haven't installed all the plugins and extentions that I like to use yet. It's also possible that some of the extentions that I used on FF aren't available or won't work on SM as well. Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 17:49:34 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Seamonkey and Flash Hi, I now only have one copy of flashwin.dll on my system, Seamonkey is the default browser and when I try to install flash using flashinst I STILL get an access violation as shown below: Thu Apr 5 17:43:29 2007 ---[Exception Information]------------ Access Violation (hardware generated,portable,fatal) Read Access at address 325f4c48h Exception Address = 1d8dd5f3 (#4325) obj #0:0017d5f3 Thread: Ordinal TID: 100, TID: 1, Priority: 0200h Process: PID: 91, Parent: 22, Status: 16 SS:ESP=0053:00041454 EFLAGS=00012246 CS:EIP=005b:1d8dd5f3 EBP =325f4c48 EAX=0053fd70 EBX=0053fca0 ESI=00000000 ECX=00000000 EDX=00000000 EDI=0053f5f4 DS=0053 ES=00000053 FS=0437 GS=0000 ---[End Of Exception Information]----- This is worse than firefox - it installed with error, it just aborted with a similar problem when it hit a page with flash content. This is on OS/2 Warp 4 CP2FP5. Cheers/2 Ed. Could there be other DLLs that the install process and the flash plugin use that can be causing this problem. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 17:57:34 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Seamonkey and Flash - correction Ed Durrant wrote: > Hi, > > I now only have one copy of flashwin.dll on my system, Seamonkey is > the default browser and when I try to install flash using flashinst I > STILL get an access violation as shown below: > > Thu Apr 5 17:43:29 2007 > ---[Exception Information]------------ > Access Violation (hardware generated,portable,fatal) > Read Access at address 325f4c48h > Exception Address = 1d8dd5f3 (#4325) obj #0:0017d5f3 > Thread: Ordinal TID: 100, TID: 1, Priority: 0200h > Process: PID: 91, Parent: 22, Status: 16 > SS:ESP=0053:00041454 EFLAGS=00012246 > CS:EIP=005b:1d8dd5f3 EBP =325f4c48 > EAX=0053fd70 EBX=0053fca0 ESI=00000000 > ECX=00000000 EDX=00000000 EDI=0053f5f4 > DS=0053 ES=00000053 FS=0437 GS=0000 > ---[End Of Exception Information]----- > > This is worse than firefox - it installed with error, it just aborted > with a similar problem when it hit a page with flash content. That should have said: This is worse than firefox - it installed without error, it just aborted with a similar problem when it hit a page with flash content. > > This is on OS/2 Warp 4 CP2FP5. > > Cheers/2 > > Ed. > > Could there be other DLLs that the install process and the flash > plugin use that can be causing this problem. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 10:04:59 +0200 From: Kris Steenhaut Subject: Re: Seamonkey and Flash Ed Durrant ha scritto: > Hi, > > I now only have one copy of flashwin.dll on my system, Seamonkey is > the default browser and when I try to install flash using flashinst I > STILL get an access violation as shown below: > > Thu Apr 5 17:43:29 2007 > ---[Exception Information]------------ > Access Violation (hardware generated,portable,fatal) > Read Access at address 325f4c48h > Exception Address = 1d8dd5f3 (#4325) obj #0:0017d5f3 > Thread: Ordinal TID: 100, TID: 1, Priority: 0200h > Process: PID: 91, Parent: 22, Status: 16 > SS:ESP=0053:00041454 EFLAGS=00012246 > CS:EIP=005b:1d8dd5f3 EBP =325f4c48 > EAX=0053fd70 EBX=0053fca0 ESI=00000000 > ECX=00000000 EDX=00000000 EDI=0053f5f4 > DS=0053 ES=00000053 FS=0437 GS=0000 > ---[End Of Exception Information]----- > > This is worse than firefox - it installed with error, it just aborted > with a similar problem when it hit a page with flash content. > It's not worse, it's just the same. As I wrote already earlier, you do have a conflciting dll file, or/end an not updateted ipluginw.dll file. And how can you be sure there there aren't Tb/FF dll files floating around in other directories? -- Groeten uit Gent, Kris ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 19:43:43 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Seamonkey and Flash Kris Steenhaut wrote: > Ed Durrant ha scritto: >> Hi, >> >> I now only have one copy of flashwin.dll on my system, Seamonkey is >> the default browser and when I try to install flash using flashinst I >> STILL get an access violation as shown below: >> >> Thu Apr 5 17:43:29 2007 >> ---[Exception Information]------------ >> Access Violation (hardware generated,portable,fatal) >> Read Access at address 325f4c48h >> Exception Address = 1d8dd5f3 (#4325) obj #0:0017d5f3 >> Thread: Ordinal TID: 100, TID: 1, Priority: 0200h >> Process: PID: 91, Parent: 22, Status: 16 >> SS:ESP=0053:00041454 EFLAGS=00012246 >> CS:EIP=005b:1d8dd5f3 EBP =325f4c48 >> EAX=0053fd70 EBX=0053fca0 ESI=00000000 >> ECX=00000000 EDX=00000000 EDI=0053f5f4 >> DS=0053 ES=00000053 FS=0437 GS=0000 >> ---[End Of Exception Information]----- >> >> This is worse than firefox - it installed with error, it just aborted >> with a similar problem when it hit a page with flash content. >> > It's not worse, it's just the same. As I wrote already earlier, you do > have a conflciting dll file, or/end an not updateted ipluginw.dll file. > > And how can you be sure there there aren't Tb/FF dll files floating > around in other directories? > > > > In answer to the last question, because I have searched each drive for flashwin.dll and deleted them all. If we are saying it may be other FF / TB DLLs, I'll delete the FF/TB directories as well (I've already moved them to another drive so that they can no longer be in any paths). I installed the ipluginw.dll file through the XPI file - can you tell me where to get the correct version and you say it should be updated ? Is that done by the flashinst.exe program or something else ?? Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 12:21:43 +0200 From: Kris Steenhaut Subject: Re: Seamonkey and Flash Ed Durrant ha scritto: >> > In answer to the last question, because I have searched each drive for > flashwin.dll and deleted them all. > I'm afraid you are on the wrong track. flashwin.dll is not a Tb/FF file. > If we are saying it may be other FF / TB DLLs, I'll delete the FF/TB > directories as well Didn't you say that was already done? And if not, wo wonder it has turned into a mess. > (I've already moved them to another drive so that they can no longer > be in any paths). > > I installed the ipluginw.dll file through the XPI file - can you tell > me where to get the correct version and you say it should be updated > ? Is that done by the flashinst.exe program or something else ?? > This one: C:\Garnaal\components>dir ipl* De volume-label in station C is Krisje. Het volume-serienummer is 692F:B5B9. Directory van C:\Garnaal\components 21-01-07 17:43 60.936 0 a--- ipluginw.dll 21-01-07 17:43 283 0 a--- ipluginw.readme Incidentally, I saw you messed with the config entries too. I give you with money-back guarantee the entries to have: SET MOZ_BIN=C:\Garnaal SET Mozilla_home=C:\Internet\Gebruikers SET MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH=C:\Internet\Instekers SET NSPR_OS2_NO_ HIRES_TIMER=1 (In my case Seamonkey is in the \Garnaal directory. Incidentally 2, are you sure you have deleted the tb/ff profile directories? If not, you are at risk to be stuck for ever. -- Groeten uit Gent, Kris ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 7 ==========================** Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 22:08:28 +1000 (AEST) From: "John Angelico" Subject: Re: Config.SYS was Seamonkey and Flash On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 12:21:43 +0200, Kris Steenhaut wrote: >SET NSPR_OS2_NO_ HIRES_TIMER=1 Hmm, Kris I can't find anything about this Config entry in the CONFIG.SYS documentation project. Can you tell us more about it, please? Best regards John Angelico OS/2 SIG os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or talldad at kepl dot com dot au ___________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 8 ==========================** Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 15:17:15 +0200 From: Kris Steenhaut Subject: Re: Config.SYS was Seamonkey and Flash John Angelico ha scritto: > On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 12:21:43 +0200, Kris Steenhaut wrote: > > >> SET NSPR_OS2_NO_ HIRES_TIMER=1 >> > > Hmm, Kris > > I can't find anything about this Config entry in the CONFIG.SYS > documentation project. > > Can you tell us more about it, please? > > Have to admit I'll have to look again myself, as I don't recall very well. I think the advise was given to me by Scitech support four years ago (or so) in order to have more stability (or lesser instability) in the browser. By means of the entry the high resolution timer (whatever that may be) is disabled. Yes it's a bit awkward. -- Groeten uit Gent, Kris ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------