From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 00:01:07 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1481 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Tuesday 17 April 2007 Number 1481 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 Re: Installing Firefox : Ian Manners" 2 Re: Seamonkey mail question : Ed Durrant 3 Re: Installing Firefox : John Angelico" 4 Re: Seamonkey mail question : Peter Moylan 5 Re: Installing Firefox : David Shearer 6 Re: Installing Firefox : Ian Manners" 7 Re: Installing Firefox : Ian Manners" 8 Re: Installing Firefox : Ed Durrant 9 Re: Installing Firefox : David Shearer **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 00:07:38 +1000 (EST) From: "Ian Manners" Subject: Re: Installing Firefox Think someone should invite Dick Head to the MelbPC User Group Meeting ? Checking the logs shows the person is using a Burwood - Melbourne line. Person has unsubscribed. :-)) Cheers Ian Manners Tech Fossil (Often called a Dinosaur) - ancient animal that gets things done http://www.os2site dot com/ Bang the left side of your computer to restart Windows. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 06:37:09 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Seamonkey mail question Kris Steenhaut wrote: > Ed Durrant ha scritto: >> >> It appears that in Seamonkey Mail every e-mail that is written and >> possibly those that are replied to are also written to the drafts >> folder and stay their taking up more and more space. >> > Dunno who told you that story, but it isn't true at all. SM behaves > just like TB, or better TB behaves just as SM given the fact TB is > nothing but mozilla/SM split off. > Ok, so it must be something to do with how I transferred my mail directories from TB to SM - I'll erase all drafts and see if the directory fills again. Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 07:44:08 +1000 (AEST) From: "John Angelico" Subject: Re: Installing Firefox On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 00:07:38 +1000 (EST), Ian Manners wrote: >Think someone should invite Dick Head to the MelbPC User Group >Meeting ? Checking the logs shows the person is using a Burwood - >Melbourne line. Person has unsubscribed. > >:-)) > >Cheers >Ian Manners >Tech Fossil (Often called a Dinosaur) - ancient animal that gets things done >http://www.os2site dot com/ > > >Bang the left side of your computer to restart Windows. > > I wondered about the handle - was it a troll, or a genuine enquiry from someone with a warped (!) sense of humour? If they have unsubbed, I suspect a troll. Best regards John Angelico OS/2 SIG os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or talldad at kepl dot com dot au ___________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 09:15:25 +1000 From: Peter Moylan Subject: Re: Seamonkey mail question Ed Durrant wrote: > Kris Steenhaut wrote: >> Ed Durrant ha scritto: >>> >>> It appears that in Seamonkey Mail every e-mail that is written >>> and possibly those that are replied to are also written to the >>> drafts folder and stay their taking up more and more space. >>> >> Dunno who told you that story, but it isn't true at all. SM behaves >> just like TB, or better TB behaves just as SM given the fact TB is >> nothing but mozilla/SM split off. >> > Ok, so it must be something to do with how I transferred my mail > directories from TB to SM - I'll erase all drafts and see if the > directory fills again. I recall transferring my mail from PMMail to TB without too much trouble, but transferring it from TB on one machine to TB on another was a real headache. I believe that things like directory names are encoded within the hard-to-read configuration files, so you end up with conflicts between where you think your mail files are and where TB thinks they are. One thing that seems to help is to create a new account within TB, copy all your mail across (still within TB, not via the OS/2 file system), then delete the old account. This does tend to leave you with directories where it's unclear whether you can safely delete "obsolete" files, but you can minimize the effect of that by doing a "compact all folders" operation. -- Peter Moylan peter at ozebelg dot org peter.moylan at optusnet dot com dot au http://www.pmoylan dot org Please note the changed e-mail and web addresses. The domain eepjm.newcastle.edu.au no longer exists, and I can no longer receive mail at my newcastle.edu.au addresses. The optusnet address could disappear at any time. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 18:40:08 +1000 From: David Shearer Subject: Re: Installing Firefox John Angelico wrote: > On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 00:07:38 +1000 (EST), Ian Manners wrote: > > >> Think someone should invite Dick Head to the MelbPC User Group >> Meeting ? Checking the logs shows the person is using a Burwood - >> Melbourne line. Person has unsubscribed. >> >> :-)) >> >> Cheers >> Ian Manners >> Tech Fossil (Often called a Dinosaur) - ancient animal that gets things done >> http://www.os2site dot com/ >> >> >> Bang the left side of your computer to restart Windows. > >> > >> >> > > I wondered about the handle - was it a troll, or a genuine enquiry from > someone with a warped (!) sense of humour? > > If they have unsubbed, I suspect a troll. > > > Best regards > John Angelico > OS/2 SIG > os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or > talldad at kepl dot com dot au > ___________________ > > > > I suspect he wasn't genuine - for example an IBM ps/2 model 70 did not come with a cdrom - it was a 386 with 2.88mb diskette drive and 170mb hard disk - in fact i doubt you could attach one esp an ide as it used mca bus not ide. It could run os/2 2.11 but doubt he would have had a cdrom attached to copy firefox as he said he did. david [attachments have been removed] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 20:07:03 +1000 (EST) From: "Ian Manners" Subject: Re: Installing Firefox Hi John >I wondered about the handle - was it a troll, or a genuine enquiry from >someone with a warped (!) sense of humour? >If they have unsubbed, I suspect a troll. I sent them a helpful off list email asking them to tell me what was on the back of the PS/2, then later noticed that person had then unsubscribed. Thats the type of humor I would do but tis not me, I'd be more sutle than that ;-) Cheers Ian Manners Tech Fossil (Often called a Dinosaur) - ancient animal that gets things done http://www.os2site dot com/ "I don't do drugs anymore 'cause I find I get the same effect just by standing up really fast." --Johnathan Katz ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 7 ==========================** Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 20:08:56 +1000 (EST) From: "Ian Manners" Subject: Re: Installing Firefox Hi David >I suspect he wasn't genuine - for example an IBM ps/2 model 70 did not >come with a cdrom - it was a 386 with 2.88mb diskette drive and 170mb >hard disk - in fact i doubt you could attach one esp an ide as it used >mca bus not ide. It could run os/2 2.11 but doubt he would have had a >cdrom attached to copy firefox as he said he did. I suspect he/she/it wasnt genuine but for different reasons. A PS/2 70 can take an MCA IDE controller card, have one here, and will also take a CD-ROM but its very touchy about which IDE CDROM it will take, and it most definitely will not fit in the case ! Havent fired up that PS/2, or the Model 50 for ages, the Model 70 has a drop in 486 adapter, and the Model 50 has a drop in 386 CPU adapter. Noticed a few PS/2's on the footpaths around here last September during hardwaste collection. Wish I'd stopped and picked them up now, or at least the keyboards :-) Hm, think I'll put them on the work bench and fire them up and check the batt's while I'm at it. They were such nice machines in there day. Cheers Ian Manners Tech Fossil (Often called a Dinosaur) - ancient animal that gets things done http://www.os2site dot com/ Santa's elves are just a bunch of subordinate Clauses. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 8 ==========================** Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 20:41:33 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Installing Firefox David Shearer wrote: > John Angelico wrote: >> On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 00:07:38 +1000 (EST), Ian Manners wrote: >> >> >>> Think someone should invite Dick Head to the MelbPC User Group >>> Meeting ? Checking the logs shows the person is using a Burwood - >>> Melbourne line. Person has unsubscribed. >>> >>> :-)) >>> >>> Cheers >>> Ian Manners >>> Tech Fossil (Often called a Dinosaur) - ancient animal that gets >>> things done >>> http://www.os2site dot com/ >>> >>> >>> Bang the left side of your computer to restart Windows. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> I wondered about the handle - was it a troll, or a genuine enquiry from >> someone with a warped (!) sense of humour? >> >> If they have unsubbed, I suspect a troll. >> >> >> Best regards >> John Angelico >> OS/2 SIG >> os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or talldad at kepl dot com dot au >> ___________________ >> > >> >> > >> >> > I suspect he wasn't genuine - for example an IBM ps/2 model 70 did not > come with a cdrom - it was a 386 with 2.88mb diskette drive and 170mb > hard disk - in fact i doubt you could attach one esp an ide as it used > mca bus not ide. It could run os/2 2.11 but doubt he would have had a > cdrom attached to copy firefox as he said he did. > > david > > [attachments have been removed] Minor update to your comments David IDE came after ST506 parrallel disk interface and the disk controller for ST506 could come on an MCA bus card or an AT Bus card. MCA - Micro Channel Architecture was the interface to the adapter cards not to the disks. Very advanced and configuarable but a real "pig" to set up right. A lot better that AT Bus (or ISA if you prefer) and faster than (I think) EISA and VL Bus - about as fast as the later 33MHz PCI Bus. Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 9 ==========================** Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 20:41:04 +1000 From: David Shearer Subject: Re: Installing Firefox Ed Durrant wrote: > David Shearer wrote: >> John Angelico wrote: >>> On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 00:07:38 +1000 (EST), Ian Manners wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Think someone should invite Dick Head to the MelbPC User Group >>>> Meeting ? Checking the logs shows the person is using a Burwood - >>>> Melbourne line. Person has unsubscribed. >>>> >>>> :-)) >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> Ian Manners >>>> Tech Fossil (Often called a Dinosaur) - ancient animal that gets >>>> things done >>>> http://www.os2site dot com/ >>>> >>>> >>>> Bang the left side of your computer to restart Windows. > >>>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>> >>> I wondered about the handle - was it a troll, or a genuine enquiry from >>> someone with a warped (!) sense of humour? >>> >>> If they have unsubbed, I suspect a troll. >>> >>> >>> Best regards >>> John Angelico >>> OS/2 SIG >>> os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or talldad at kepl dot com dot au >>> ___________________ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> I suspect he wasn't genuine - for example an IBM ps/2 model 70 did >> not come with a cdrom - it was a 386 with 2.88mb diskette drive and >> 170mb hard disk - in fact i doubt you could attach one esp an ide as >> it used mca bus not ide. It could run os/2 2.11 but doubt he would >> have had a cdrom attached to copy firefox as he said he did. >> >> david >> >> [attachments have been removed] > Minor update to your comments David IDE came after ST506 parrallel > disk interface and the disk controller for ST506 could come on an MCA > bus card or an AT Bus card. > > MCA - Micro Channel Architecture was the interface to the adapter > cards not to the disks. Very advanced and configuarable but a real > "pig" to set up right. A lot better that AT Bus (or ISA if you prefer) > and faster than (I think) EISA and VL Bus - about as fast as the later > 33MHz PCI Bus. > > Cheers/2 > > Ed. > > > Thanks - my mistake - I have a couple of old PS/2's in my garage - should have known better. In fact the PS/2 was the first computer I used at work and learnt to use computers etc. Of course one could try connecting a cdrom via the parallel port?? David ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------