From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 00:01:01 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1494 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Sunday 20 May 2007 Number 1494 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 OS/2 VOIP & Videophone : Ed Durrant 2 My machine keeps freezing! : Glenn Montgomery 3 Re: My machine keeps freezing! : Dennis Nolan 4 Re: My machine keeps freezing! : Paul Smedley 5 Re: My machine keeps freezing! : Glenn Montgomery 6 Re: My machine keeps freezing! : Glenn Montgomery 7 Re: My machine keeps freezing! : Ed Durrant 8 Re: My machine keeps freezing! : Ian Manners" **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 09:06:28 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: OS/2 VOIP & Videophone Hi, I know this is an area that is by its nature very complex, however there is an open source program called EKIGA that is a linux program and has a windows version now. I requires certain "toolkits" under Linux to work. If these toolkits are also available for OS/2 is there any chance we could ever have this compiled and working on OS/2 or eCS ? It is different to other VOIP Softphones in that it also includes H-323 (?) videophone capabilities similar to Micro$ofts NetMeeting. http://www.ekiga dot org Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 19:15:34 +1000 From: Glenn Montgomery Subject: My machine keeps freezing! Hello all, I am having ever increasing problems with my computer just locking up at random times. I have tried to establish what conditions cause it but haven't been successful yet. I use an AMD Athlon 64 3500+ machine with 512M RAM on an ASUS motherboard. I run both eComStation and Win2000. It happens under either operating system so I'm assuming it's hardware related, but what?? Any ideas would be great, I'm getting a tad frustrated etc :) Thanks, Glenn. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 19:26:21 +1000 From: Dennis Nolan Subject: Re: My machine keeps freezing! Do a proper memory check on your RAM. There are several free programs that do it. If your memory is ok then I'd try another graphics card. After that I'd give in and get a new computer, or even use it's behavior to justify to the Mrs. my need for a newer and better system without trying to find out the problem. Regards Dennis Glenn Montgomery wrote: > Hello all, > I am having ever increasing problems with my computer just locking up > at random times. I have tried to establish what conditions cause it > but haven't been successful yet. I use an AMD Athlon 64 3500+ machine > with 512M RAM on an ASUS motherboard. I run both eComStation and > Win2000. It happens under either operating system so I'm assuming it's > hardware related, but what?? Any ideas would be great, I'm getting a > tad frustrated etc :) > Thanks, > Glenn. > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 18:57:47 +0930 From: Paul Smedley Subject: Re: My machine keeps freezing! I'd be checking temperatures - perhaps a dud/clogged cooling fan? Glenn Montgomery wrote: > Hello all, > I am having ever increasing problems with my computer just locking up at > random times. I have tried to establish what conditions cause it but > haven't been successful yet. I use an AMD Athlon 64 3500+ machine with > 512M RAM on an ASUS motherboard. I run both eComStation and Win2000. It > happens under either operating system so I'm assuming it's hardware > related, but what?? Any ideas would be great, I'm getting a tad > frustrated etc :) > Thanks, > Glenn. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 19:35:57 +1000 From: Glenn Montgomery Subject: Re: My machine keeps freezing! Yes I haven't checked my memory (in more ways than one :-\ ), but it's on board video. I'll look for one of those RAM checking programs. Cheers, Glenn Dennis Nolan wrote: > Do a proper memory check on your RAM. > There are several free programs that do it. > If your memory is ok then I'd try another graphics card. > After that I'd give in and get a new computer, or even use it's > behavior to justify to the Mrs. my need for a newer and better system > without trying to find out the problem. > > Regards > Dennis > > Glenn Montgomery wrote: >> Hello all, >> I am having ever increasing problems with my computer just locking up >> at random times. I have tried to establish what conditions cause it >> but haven't been successful yet. I use an AMD Athlon 64 3500+ machine >> with 512M RAM on an ASUS motherboard. I run both eComStation and >> Win2000. It happens under either operating system so I'm assuming >> it's hardware related, but what?? Any ideas would be great, I'm >> getting a tad frustrated etc :) >> Thanks, >> Glenn. > >> >> > >> >> > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 19:39:24 +1000 From: Glenn Montgomery Subject: Re: My machine keeps freezing! Hi Paul, I have checked my temp with a program running while in windows, but also looked at bios to check straight after freeze-up and the cpu doesn't get up past 33-34C. The fan blows straight in through the side of the box. Anyhow... Cheers, Glenn Paul Smedley wrote: > I'd be checking temperatures - perhaps a dud/clogged cooling fan? > Glenn Montgomery wrote: >> Hello all, >> I am having ever increasing problems with my computer just locking up >> at random times. I have tried to establish what conditions cause it >> but haven't been successful yet. I use an AMD Athlon 64 3500+ machine >> with 512M RAM on an ASUS motherboard. I run both eComStation and >> Win2000. It happens under either operating system so I'm assuming >> it's hardware related, but what?? Any ideas would be great, I'm >> getting a tad frustrated etc :) >> Thanks, >> Glenn. > >> >> > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 7 ==========================** Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 22:34:31 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: My machine keeps freezing! Glenn Montgomery wrote: > Hello all, > I am having ever increasing problems with my computer just locking up > at random times. I have tried to establish what conditions cause it > but haven't been successful yet. I use an AMD Athlon 64 3500+ machine > with 512M RAM on an ASUS motherboard. I run both eComStation and > Win2000. It happens under either operating system so I'm assuming it's > hardware related, but what?? Any ideas would be great, I'm getting a > tad frustrated etc :) > Thanks, > Glenn. > > > Being an ASUS board, you haven't ever chosen to use the overclocking option in the BIOS have you ? Doing so can "burn out" components, not only processor and memory but also motherboard chipset. In general check the internal temperature after a hang - restart the system and go into the BIOS and check the temperatures indicated. Or you may have the ASUS software installed under W2K in which case this is a second option. Apart from heat, random hangs are most often caused by faulty RAM memory - run a memory testing program for 12-24 hours to see if it finds anything. Another possible culprit is the mains power circuit - if you are not located in a Metro area, I would recommend using a line filter of some sort - they are available in some special power boards. A tell tale for this would be if the lights in the house flickered about the same time as the system hung. Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 8 ==========================** Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 23:09:04 +1000 (EST) From: "Ian Manners" Subject: Re: My machine keeps freezing! Hi Glenn Do the easy stuff first :-) I would do is check your CMOS settings as per Ed's suggestion incase you either on purpose, or accidently are running at a higher clock frequeny for CPU and BUS. More than 12 months old ? Have a look at the MB capacitors (aluminium cans with plastic wrapped around them). Do any have bulging tops of a brown fluid around the base ? While your there, if nothing is amiss, reset the CPU assembly and the SDRAM/whatever, and remove the power cable to the MB and reinsert. With the power cable plug, check that there are no pin tops higher than the white plastic plug mold, seen a few dodgy power plugs over the years. Also as Paul suggested, check for dust, and grab the vacuum cleaner and put it to the fan on the power supply to extract any loose dust, as well as from around any air vents front and back of the case. To be honest, I move checking SDRAM, DDR RAM etc to last as I've found modern RAM to be very reliable, that is as long as your sure it was inserted in a good antistatic enviroment to start with. Cheers >Hello all, >I am having ever increasing problems with my computer just locking up at >random times. I have tried to establish what conditions cause it but >haven't been successful yet. I use an AMD Athlon 64 3500+ machine with >512M RAM on an ASUS motherboard. I run both eComStation and Win2000. It >happens under either operating system so I'm assuming it's hardware >related, but what?? Any ideas would be great, I'm getting a tad >frustrated etc :) >Thanks, >Glenn. > "I'm a psychic amnesiac. I know in advance what I'll forget." --Michael McShane ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------