From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 00:00:56 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1607 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Tuesday 19 February 2008 Number 1607 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 Is Microsoft/Yahoo about Windows' failure as a top server platform? : Ian Manners" 2 Re: Is Microsoft/Yahoo about Windows' failure as a top server platform? : Voytek Eymont" 3 Re: Is Microsoft/Yahoo about Windows' failure as a top server platform? : Chuck McKinnis 4 Re: Is Microsoft/Yahoo about Windows' failure as a top server platform? : Ed Durrant 5 Re: Is Microsoft/Yahoo about Windows' failure as a top server platform? : Peter Moylan 6 Re: Is Microsoft/Yahoo about Windows' failure as a top server platform? : Ian Manners" 7 Re: Is Microsoft/Yahoo about Windows' failure as a top server platform? : Peter Moylan **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:48:18 +1100 (EDT) From: "Ian Manners" Subject: Is Microsoft/Yahoo about Windows' failure as a top server platform? Is Microsoft/Yahoo about Windows' failure as a top server platform? Cheers Ian Manners http://www.os2site dot com/ WINERR 005 - LONG FILE NAME ERROR; TAPE ERASED TO MAKE ROOM FOR FILENAME ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:40:25 +1100 (EST) From: "Voytek Eymont" Subject: Re: Is Microsoft/Yahoo about Windows' failure as a top server platform? > Is Microsoft/Yahoo about Windows' failure as a top server platform? > Microsoft could still come out on top: if Gates dusts off his OS/2 license and brings a new OS/2 version, he could still kick Linux... how's that for a thought ? -- Voytek ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:49:27 -0700 From: Chuck McKinnis Subject: Re: Is Microsoft/Yahoo about Windows' failure as a top server platform? Voytek Eymont wrote: > >> Is Microsoft/Yahoo about Windows' failure as a top server platform? > >> > > Microsoft could still come out on top: > > if Gates dusts off his OS/2 license and brings a new OS/2 version, he > could still kick Linux... > > how's that for a thought ? > > I suspect that Mr. Gates has not had that thought. -- Chuck McKinnis http://www.7cities dot net/~mckinnis/os2/ 505-286-3191 Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers. Ephesians 4:29 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:25:37 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Is Microsoft/Yahoo about Windows' failure as a top server platform? Voytek Eymont wrote: > > >> Is Microsoft/Yahoo about Windows' failure as a top server platform? >> > > >> >> > > Microsoft could still come out on top: > > if Gates dusts off his OS/2 license and brings a new OS/2 version, he > could still kick Linux... > > how's that for a thought ? > > > Or just buys Serenity Systems ....... Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:50:37 +1100 From: Peter Moylan Subject: Re: Is Microsoft/Yahoo about Windows' failure as a top server platform? On 19/02/08 18:25, Ed Durrant wrote: > Voytek Eymont wrote: >> if Gates dusts off his OS/2 license and brings a new OS/2 version, >> he could still kick Linux... >> >> how's that for a thought ? >> > Or just buys Serenity Systems ....... That's definitely not a cheerful thought. The only time Microsoft buys a company is when it wants to kill off one or more of its products. -- Peter Moylan peter at pmoylan dot org http://www.pmoylan dot org ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 19:12:09 +1100 (EDT) From: "Ian Manners" Subject: Re: Is Microsoft/Yahoo about Windows' failure as a top server platform? Hi Voytek, >Microsoft could still come out on top: > >if Gates dusts off his OS/2 license and brings a new OS/2 version, he >could still kick Linux... > >how's that for a thought ? Not a good one, look what they have done to a lot of other software after buying it in, let along developed themselves ! MS only seem to be as good as the rare developer they employ, like when the HPFS, HPFS386 driver was developed. Bugger knows why they didnt use something similiar for WinNT back then. Cheers Ian Manners http://www.os2site dot com/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 7 ==========================** Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:54:35 +1100 From: Peter Moylan Subject: Re: Is Microsoft/Yahoo about Windows' failure as a top server platform? On 19/02/08 19:12, Ian Manners wrote: > MS only seem to be as good as the rare developer they employ, like > when the HPFS, HPFS386 driver was developed. Bugger knows why they > didnt use something similiar for WinNT back then. They did! I was successfully using HPFS with NT, and it worked perfectly well. Then they brought out a version of NT where the installer, if it found HPFS on any partition, would prompt with "OS/2 detected. Delete?" If you passed that barrier, you got to one where it said "Unknown file system detected. Format this partition?" Even on that version, though, you could install the HPFS driver. I used to keep a copy of the driver (pinball.sys) on my FTP server, for the benefit of Windows people who wanted a better file system. It wasn't until the post-NT versions of Windows that the HPFS driver would no longer work. (And even then, I suspect, it would have worked if the OS hadn't had a special check to see whether you were trying to install it.) Of course, that wasn't long after the time when NT was called "OS/2 version 3". (Before it was released, admittedly.) That's why NT version numbering starts with version 3. The OS/2 components were stripped out only gradually. -- Peter Moylan peter at pmoylan dot org http://www.pmoylan dot org ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------