From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 00:01:47 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1616 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Tuesday 04 March 2008 Number 1616 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 Re: Capturing flash video from browsers : Ed Durrant 2 FireFox : Andrew Hood" 3 Re: FireFox : Paul Smedley" 4 optus cable broadband? : Chris Neeson" 5 Re: optus cable broadband? : Robert Traynor (BobT)" 6 Re: optus cable broadband? : Voytek Eymont" 7 Re: FireFox : Ed Durrant 8 Re: optus cable broadband? : Ed Durrant 9 Re: FireFox : Peter L Allen" 10 Re: FireFox : John Angelico" 11 Re: Capturing flash video from browsers : John Angelico" 12 Re: Capturing flash video from browsers : Ed Durrant 13 Re: FireFox : Andrew Hood" 14 Re: Capturing flash video from browsers : John Angelico" 15 New Topic: Open Office Databases : John Angelico" 16 Re: Capturing flash video from browsers : Peter Moylan 17 Re: Time setting was Capturing flash video from browsers : John Angelico" **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 07:17:50 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Capturing flash video from browsers John Angelico wrote: > On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 22:32:47 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote: > > >> Hi, >> >> I've just come across an extension for Firefox (that works in the OS/2 >> build) - to download the flash (flv) files for later viewing it's here: >> >> http://www.downloadhelper dot net/ >> >> > > Hmm, odd behaviour here. > > I can't see the YouTube stuff that matters: > " String Fever (Bolero) > Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Adobe's > Flash Player. Get the latest Flash player (link)." > > I have a lot of extensions, so if anyone knows which one/s are > useful/useless for this Flash/Javascript issue please tell me :-) > > I am on Firefox 2.0.0.11 with > DownloadHelper enabled (default Preferences) > Flashblock disabledNoScript enabled Whitelist includes ytimg (YouTube) but > ads.doubleclick dot net is blocked > > Best regards > John Angelico > OS/2 SIG > talldad at kepl dot com dot au > ________________________ > > > PS: String Fever is a fabulous classical Aus group - if you are into > anything classical they are a amazing with "Typewriter" "The History of > Music" and so > skilled in "Dueling Banjos" and "Bolero" > > And don't miss "The Mom Song" aka William Tell Overture > > > > Hi John, This add-in does not display flash - it only downloads the files. You need a working flash plugin as before to view the videos. I have installed this on FF/2 v 2.011 (where I do not have a working flash plug-in) and on FF 3.03(beta) where I do - in both cases, rmb on the list of small pictures gives an option to download the file - and it works on both versions. Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 08:58:16 +1100 From: "Andrew Hood" Subject: FireFox Greetings all, I decided to try firefox again after a long time. Previous experience is that it will only open the properties window and I've never been able to get it past that. I downloaded the latest version from the OS2site and unzipped/installed as per instructions, guess what, doublclick on the icon and it opens the properties window. Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong or missing the point of here? TIA Andrew ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 08:37:41 +1030 From: "Paul Smedley" Subject: Re: FireFox Hi Andrew, On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 08:58:16 +1100 "Andrew Hood" wrote: > I decided to try firefox again after a long time. > Previous experience is that it will only open the >properties window and I've never been able to get it past >that. I downloaded the latest version from the OS2site >and unzipped/installed as per instructions, guess what, >doublclick on the icon and it opens the properties >window. > > Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong or missing the >point of here? Try it from a command line - I'll bet you're missing a required DLL. Do you have libc063.dll in your libpath? Cheers, Paul. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 14:24:13 +1100 From: "Chris Neeson" Subject: optus cable broadband? I've been visited by the dreaded door to door salesman, about using Optus Broadband Cable ( or cable broadband - they're upgrading the cable strung along our street and he reckons it's different to the broadband currently available ). He reckons that the installing tech can & will do all the config needed for the cable modem, even for OS/2. Given the inability of most techs to start anything other than WinSomething, I'd like to hear the user group's experience & wisdom on the usefulness of gettting a physical broadband cable modem. Regards Chris [attachments have been removed] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:35:18 +1100 From: "Robert Traynor (BobT)" Subject: Re: optus cable broadband? Hi Chris, You have been lied to.! Optus from my own experience DEMAND windows. The techs do not know anything else. Put in a temporary hard drive, install windows XP, let the tech set it up and make sure it works, then rip it out after the tech leaves. Put back os/2. The only main thing you should do is insist that they do NOT try and use a USB connection for the modem to the computer. It must be ethernet. Make sure your computer has a working network card that works in windows and os/2. I don't believe you would have much problems if you do as above. Luck. Regards, Robert Traynor (BobT). 4 March 2008 14:34 On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 14:24:13 +1100, Chris Neeson wrote: > I've been visited by the dreaded door to door salesman, about using > Optus Broadband Cable ( or cable broadband - they're upgrading > the cable strung along our street and he reckons it's different to the > broadband currently available ). > > He reckons that the installing tech can & will do all the config needed > for the cable modem, even for OS/2. > > Given the inability of most techs to start anything other than WinSomething, > I'd like to hear the user group's experience & wisdom on the usefulness > of gettting a physical broad> > > Regards > Chris ,-._|\ Robert Traynor (BobT) / Oz \ email rtraynor.removeme at removeme.optusnet dot com dot au \_,--.x/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 15:01:55 +1100 (EST) From: "Voytek Eymont" Subject: Re: optus cable broadband? if it's got an ethernet connection, anything should work with it > I've been visited by the dreaded > door to door salesman, about using Optus Broadband Cable > ( or cable broadband - they're upgrading > the cable strung along our street and he reckons it's different to the > broadband currently available ). > > He reckons that the installing tech > can & will do all the config needed for the cable modem, even for OS/2. > > Given the inability of most techs > to start anything other than WinSomething, I'd like to hear the user > group's experience & wisdom on the usefulness of gettting a physical > broadband cable modem. > > > Regards > Chris > > > [attachments have been removed] > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------- > > > -- Voytek ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 7 ==========================** Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 17:13:28 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: FireFox Andrew Hood wrote: > Greetings all, > > I decided to try firefox again after a long time. Previous experience is that it will only open the properties window and I've never been able to get it past that. I downloaded the latest version from the OS2site and unzipped/installed as per instructions, guess what, doublclick on the icon and it opens the properties window. > > Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong or missing the point of here? > > TIA > > Andrew > > > You need to have the Libc DLL set installed in the path somewhere. Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 8 ==========================** Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 17:29:25 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: optus cable broadband? Chris Neeson wrote: > I've been visited by the dreaded > door to door salesman, about using > Optus Broadband Cable > ( or cable broadband - they're upgrading > the cable strung along our street > and he reckons it's different to the > broadband currently available ). > > He reckons that the installing tech > can & will do all the config needed > for the cable modem, even for OS/2. > > Given the inability of most techs > to start anything other than WinSomething, > I'd like to hear the user group's > experience & wisdom on the usefulness > of gettting a physical broadband cable > modem. > > > Regards > Chris > > [attachments have been removed] > > > Cable systems, whether it is Optus or Telstra now use standard DOCSIS modems and do not need a special login client (as Bigpond used to, but Optus never did). All the configuration takes place in the modem and somehoe the MAC address of the device is recorded as being you so that you get the bill for its usage. The modem is in fact a gateway and DHCP server to your network. So simply have the tech install the system - plus the cat6 UTP cable from the modem into a lan switch and connect all your network devices to the switch as well - set them all to configure as DHCP and restart them, they will search for a DHCP server - the modem will respond giving them each a separate IP address (most likely 192.168.1.something or 192.168.100.something) it will also tell the devices to use itself as the default gateway and give them DNS addresses, except if it also acts as a DNS cache in which case it will give them its address for DNS as well. You should have NO problems !! Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 9 ==========================** Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:50:03 +1100 (EDT) From: "Peter L Allen" Subject: Re: FireFox On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 17:13:28 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote: >Andrew Hood wrote: >> Greetings all, >> >> I decided to try firefox again after a long time. Previous experience is that it will only open the properties window and I've never been able to get it past that. I downloaded the latest version from the OS2site and unzipped/installed as per instructions, guess what, doublclick on the icon and it opens the properties window. >> >> Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong or missing the point of here? >> >> TIA >> >> Andrew > >> > >> >> >You need to have the Libc DLL set installed in the path somewhere. > >Cheers/2 > >Ed. > According to the poster, he has only ever seen the properties page! In my experience it bleats if the dll is unaccessable. If FF has never been run - don't you have to set up a profile? firefox /p or something. Once running, move the profile data so it does'nt get overwritten during updates. Current version installs may do this? Regards, allenpl ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 10 ==========================** Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:18:53 +1000 (AEST) From: "John Angelico" Subject: Re: FireFox On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:50:03 +1100 (EDT), Peter L Allen wrote: >>You need to have the Libc DLL set installed in the path somewhere. >> >>Cheers/2 >> >>Ed. >> >According to the poster, he has only ever seen the properties page! >In my experience it bleats if the dll is unaccessable. >If FF has never been run - don't you have to set up a profile? >firefox /p or something. >Once running, move the profile data so it does'nt get overwritten during updates. >Current version installs may do this? This kind of error could be an associations problem... meaning something went wrong with the install. The most common install problem is to install over the top of a previous one. I would recommend two things: a) view the archive with something like the eCS Archive Viewer to see if everything is in the package If not, download again. b) unzip the archive to a fresh folder, where it will create a few sub-folders. c) check for latest LIBC DLL as others have posted d) check in the docs for advice on CONFIG settings for MOZ_PROFILES and MOZ_HOME Start the exe from that folder, and see if it runs. First run should create a default profile in the path set for the Moz_Profiles Best regards John Angelico OS/2 SIG os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or talldad at kepl dot com dot au ___________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 11 ==========================** Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 20:33:04 +1000 (AEST) From: "John Angelico" Subject: Re: Capturing flash video from browsers On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 07:17:50 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote: >Hi John, > > This add-in does not display flash - it only downloads the files. You >need a working flash plugin as before to view the videos. > >I have installed this on FF/2 v 2.011 (where I do not have a working >flash plug-in) and on FF 3.03(beta) where I do - in both cases, rmb on >the list of small pictures gives an option to download the file - and it >works on both versions. Hi Ed. Thanks for the pointers. With the help of the DownloadHelper Help, I figured it out eventually. There is a DLH icon next to the address bar, which activates when the page has files available to download. Then a small triangle shows so you can drop down the list and save as you wish. Once I have FLV files in my system, I can play them in MPlayer - much bigger screen space than within the browser. All I did was add *.FLV to my Associations page of MPlayer and we were away. No sound yet but we think that's a hardware problem. Best regards John Angelico OS/2 SIG os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or talldad at kepl dot com dot au ___________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 12 ==========================** Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 20:48:14 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Capturing flash video from browsers John Angelico wrote: > On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 07:17:50 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote: > > >> Hi John, >> >> This add-in does not display flash - it only downloads the files. You >> need a working flash plugin as before to view the videos. >> >> I have installed this on FF/2 v 2.011 (where I do not have a working >> flash plug-in) and on FF 3.03(beta) where I do - in both cases, rmb on >> the list of small pictures gives an option to download the file - and it >> works on both versions. >> > > Hi Ed. Thanks for the pointers. > > With the help of the DownloadHelper Help, I figured it out eventually. > > There is a DLH icon next to the address bar, which activates when the page > has files available to download. Then a small triangle shows so you can > drop down the list and save as you wish. > > Once I have FLV files in my system, I can play them in MPlayer - much > bigger screen space than within the browser. > > All I did was add *.FLV to my Associations page of MPlayer and we were > away. > > No sound yet but we think that's a hardware problem. > > > Best regards > John Angelico > OS/2 SIG > os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or > talldad at kepl dot com dot au > ___________________ > > > OK - The FLV files do have audio on them as I have dowloaded several and transferred them to my EeePC and played them there. By the way is your clock 1 hour out ? the e-mail from you says sent 21:33 and it's only 20:45 now. - perhaps its my settings (again) ? Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 13 ==========================** Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 22:41:14 +1100 From: "Andrew Hood" Subject: Re: FireFox Thankyou for all the replies. It was in fact my problem, had libc063 installed but the directory was not in the PATH statment. Moved it to \os2\dll and it fired up and worked OK (after a restart anyway). Now to start looking around for all the plugins I've been reading about to see if I can get them to work too. Thanks again Andrew ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 14 ==========================** Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 22:27:36 +1000 (AEST) From: "John Angelico" Subject: Re: Capturing flash video from browsers On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 20:48:14 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote: >OK - The FLV files do have audio on them as I have dowloaded several and >transferred them to my EeePC and played them there. > >By the way is your clock 1 hour out ? the e-mail from you says sent >21:33 and it's only 20:45 now. - perhaps its my settings (again) ? Timestamp in my Sent folder shows as Tue, 04 Mar 2008 20:33:04 +1000 (AEST) Weasel shows current time as 24hr 22:xx at the time last email went out Hmm, Microsoft answer I think: the problem's at your end - it's leaving here fine :-) Best regards John Angelico OS/2 SIG os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or talldad at kepl dot com dot au ___________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 15 ==========================** Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 22:37:17 +1000 (AEST) From: "John Angelico" Subject: New Topic: Open Office Databases Hi all. Anyone used OO to create or read databases? I keep getting really stoopid errors "General Input/Output Error" when I try to create one. I mean that's taking MS compatibility just a little too far! All the docs look terrific - import from CSV and all but I can't get the blameed thing to start. So far, I reckon dear old dBExpert walks over this thing. Best regards John Angelico OS/2 SIG os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or talldad at kepl dot com dot au ___________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 16 ==========================** Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 22:51:20 +1100 From: Peter Moylan Subject: Re: Capturing flash video from browsers On 04/03/08 23:27, John Angelico wrote: > On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 20:48:14 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote: >> By the way is your clock 1 hour out ? the e-mail from you says sent >> 21:33 and it's only 20:45 now. - perhaps its my settings (again) ? >> > > Timestamp in my Sent folder shows as Tue, 04 Mar 2008 20:33:04 +1000 > (AEST) It's that +1000 that's the problem. It should be +1100. You haven't switched to summer time (or you've switched away from it prematurely). Strange, I thought that eCSclock handled daylight saving very well. -- Peter Moylan peter at pmoylan dot org http://www.pmoylan dot org ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 17 ==========================** Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 23:01:42 +1000 (AEST) From: "John Angelico" Subject: Re: Time setting was Capturing flash video from browsers On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 22:51:20 +1100, Peter Moylan wrote: Hi Peter. >On 04/03/08 23:27, John Angelico wrote: >> On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 20:48:14 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote: > >>> By the way is your clock 1 hour out ? the e-mail from you says sent >>> 21:33 and it's only 20:45 now. - perhaps its my settings (again) ? >>> >> >> Timestamp in my Sent folder shows as Tue, 04 Mar 2008 20:33:04 +1000 >> (AEST) > >It's that +1000 that's the problem. It should be +1100. You haven't >switched to summer time (or you've switched away from it prematurely). >Strange, I thought that eCSclock handled daylight saving very well. My cities file shows all eastern time zone cities as Zone K, UTC+10 DLS dates look OK March 30th 2008 to revert to AEST from AEDT, and next start is Oct 29th 2008. But I see what you mean - timestamp says AEST. Config shows: REM *** The TZ string is maintained by eCS Clock. Do not change manually! Please refer to the clock's manual. *** SET TZ=AEST-10AEDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 Puzzle for no 2 son when he returns later this evening. :-) Best regards John Angelico OS/2 SIG os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or talldad at kepl dot com dot au ___________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------