From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 00:01:33 EST-10EDT,10,1,0,7200,4,1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1676 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Saturday 19 July 2008 Number 1676 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 Re: Warp Connect IDE hard drive size ? : Voytek Eymont" 2 Re: Warp Connect IDE hard drive size ? : Ed Durrant 3 Re: Warp Connect IDE hard drive size ? : Ed Durrant 4 Re: Warp Connect IDE hard drive size ? : Voytek Eymont" 5 2.5/3.5 HD converter up in flames? : Voytek Eymont" 6 Re: Warp Connect IDE hard drive size ? : Voytek Eymont" 7 Re: Warp Connect IDE hard drive size ? : Voytek Eymont" 8 Re: 2.5/3.5 HD converter up in flames? : Ed Durrant 9 Re: 2.5/3.5 HD converter up in flames? : Voytek Eymont" 10 Re: 2.5/3.5 HD converter up in flames? : Ed Durrant 11 Re: 2.5/3.5 HD converter up in flames? : Ed Durrant 12 Re: 2.5/3.5 HD converter up in flames? : Voytek Eymont" 13 Re: Inkscape : Alan Duval 14 Xara Xtreme : Alan Duval **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 00:19:58 +1000 (EST) From: "Voytek Eymont" Subject: Re: Warp Connect IDE hard drive size ? > Voytek Eymont wrote: > There are replacement install diskette images at > http://www.warpdoctor dot org/downloads.html for Warp 3 Red and Blue which fix > the >4GB problem. I would guess these should work with warp Connect as > well. Mark, many thanks! I'm having some probs, unimaging floppy fails at 99%, BUT, the 99% disk more or less worked, it came up with 'square' logo, not, the 'wave' warp 3c logo, BUT, I've partitioned OK, and, install started OK, and, no longer have corrupted HD size values; good progress install eventually stopped, either due to 99% or due to warp/warp connect different files expected, I'll continue tomorrow -- Voytek ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 07:58:01 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Warp Connect IDE hard drive size ? Voytek Eymont wrote: > I need to install Warp 3 on an IDE drive, I have 20GB drive, but, having > trouble FDISKing it correctly, after FDISK and reboot, the partition table > is corrupted, unable to make it bootable/startable, > > and, I'm having trouble remembering how to do it.... > > anyone has better memory ? > > > > You should be OK up to 32GB if I remember correctly. Did you set the partition active in FDISK? Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:10:12 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Warp Connect IDE hard drive size ? Ed Durrant wrote: > Voytek Eymont wrote: >> I need to install Warp 3 on an IDE drive, I have 20GB drive, but, having >> trouble FDISKing it correctly, after FDISK and reboot, the partition >> table >> is corrupted, unable to make it bootable/startable, >> >> and, I'm having trouble remembering how to do it.... >> >> anyone has better memory ? >> >> >> >> > You should be OK up to 32GB if I remember correctly. > > Did you set the partition active in FDISK? > > > Cheers/2 > > Ed. > - Sorry after reading the other e-mails I realised Warp 3 was limited to 4GB partitions, however I think you are past that stage now. The fact that your floppy disk builds only complete to 99 percent sounds a little strange - are you using new floppy disks ? (they're hard to find these days!). Perhaps it worth doing a full (i.e. not quick) format of the floppy before you load the image to it so any faulty tracks are locked out ? Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 10:04:09 +1000 (EST) From: "Voytek Eymont" Subject: Re: Warp Connect IDE hard drive size ? > Voytek Eymont wrote: > > There are replacement install diskette images at > http://www.warpdoctor dot org/downloads.html for Warp 3 Red and Blue which fix > the >4GB problem. I would guess these should work with warp Connect as > well. Mark, thanks!!! necessity being whatever it is, after failing with downloaded disks, I've deleted unneeded Future Domain SCSI drivers, and, copied the 5 HD support drivers from the warpdoctor download to newly generated WarpC floppy, and, managed to install the system I think... I now need to replace same files on the installed system, FDISK output seems confused, I guess install copied stuff from CD not floppy, anhow, I'm significantly further ahead, thanks again -- Voytek ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 10:09:01 +1000 (EST) From: "Voytek Eymont" Subject: 2.5/3.5 HD converter up in flames? I've tried to hook my old (ex Thinkpad) HD to a PC, using 2.5/3.5 IDE converter; when I powered up, the ribbon cable literally caught fire, burning one of the centre wires.... did I hook it wrongly... ? is it possible to have a dead short... with 2.5/3.5 converter ? perplexed... -- Voytek ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 12:31:21 +1000 (EST) From: "Voytek Eymont" Subject: Re: Warp Connect IDE hard drive size ? > Voytek Eymont wrote: > You should be OK up to 32GB if I remember correctly. > > > Did you set the partition active in FDISK? that's exactly (was) the issue, FDISK wouldn't fdisk; anyhow, with files from updated Warp3 floppy I've managed to make updated WarpConnect floppy, so far, so good -- Voytek ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 7 ==========================** Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 12:34:13 +1000 (EST) From: "Voytek Eymont" Subject: Re: Warp Connect IDE hard drive size ? > Ed Durrant wrote: > >> Voytek Eymont wrote: > Sorry after reading the other e-mails I realised Warp 3 was limited to > 4GB partitions, however I think you are past that stage now. yes > The fact > that your floppy disk builds only complete to 99 percent sounds a little > strange - are you using new floppy disks ? (they're hard to find these > days!). Perhaps it worth doing a full (i.e. not quick) format of the > floppy before you load the image to it so any faulty tracks are locked > out ? I was using .bat on windoze, now, I've tried .cmd on Warp, seems I'm getting past 99% anyhow, I've go a booting/working barnd new WarpC, so far, so good, thanks for all the suggestions -- Voytek ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 8 ==========================** Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 14:13:14 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: 2.5/3.5 HD converter up in flames? Voytek Eymont wrote: > I've tried to hook my old (ex Thinkpad) HD to a PC, using 2.5/3.5 IDE > converter; > > when I powered up, the ribbon cable literally caught fire, burning one of > the centre wires.... > > did I hook it wrongly... ? is it possible to have a dead short... with > 2.5/3.5 converter ? > > perplexed... > > > well the 2.5 drives take their power down the ribbon cable, so if either the cable or the drive has a short, you could get this problem. Might be worth checking that the IBM drive is using a standard 2.5 pinout as well. Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 9 ==========================** Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:17:29 +1000 (EST) From: "Voytek Eymont" Subject: Re: 2.5/3.5 HD converter up in flames? > Voytek Eymont wrote: > well the 2.5 drives take their power down the ribbon cable, so if either > the cable or the drive has a short, you could get this problem. Might be > worth checking that the IBM drive is using a standard 2.5 pinout as well. doesn't the power come from power adapter plugged into 2.5/3.5 gizmo ? I have used the HD in the past, in fact, there was a period of time when I had that drive plugged 'permanently' in a desktop in fact, I was trying two TP HD: 160MB from TP750? (with WarpConnect); 8GB from TP770, W4.x both if them I have used and booted in desktop in the past. strange... -- Voytek ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 10 ==========================** Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:48:58 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: 2.5/3.5 HD converter up in flames? Voytek Eymont wrote: > > >> Voytek Eymont wrote: >> > > >> well the 2.5 drives take their power down the ribbon cable, so if either >> the cable or the drive has a short, you could get this problem. Might be >> worth checking that the IBM drive is using a standard 2.5 pinout as well. >> > > > doesn't the power come from power adapter plugged into 2.5/3.5 gizmo ? > > I have used the HD in the past, in fact, there was a period of time when I > had that drive plugged 'permanently' in a desktop > > in fact, I was trying two TP HD: > 160MB from TP750? (with WarpConnect); > 8GB from TP770, W4.x > > both if them I have used and booted in desktop in the past. > > strange... > > Unless I am very mistaken, 2.5 inch drives do not have a separate power connector. Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 11 ==========================** Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:56:53 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: 2.5/3.5 HD converter up in flames? Ed Durrant wrote: > Voytek Eymont wrote: >> >> >>> Voytek Eymont wrote: >>> >> >> >>> well the 2.5 drives take their power down the ribbon cable, so if >>> either >>> the cable or the drive has a short, you could get this problem. >>> Might be >>> worth checking that the IBM drive is using a standard 2.5 pinout as >>> well. >>> >> >> >> doesn't the power come from power adapter plugged into 2.5/3.5 gizmo ? >> >> I have used the HD in the past, in fact, there was a period of time >> when I >> had that drive plugged 'permanently' in a desktop >> >> in fact, I was trying two TP HD: >> 160MB from TP750? (with WarpConnect); >> 8GB from TP770, W4.x >> >> both if them I have used and booted in desktop in the past. >> >> strange... >> >> > Unless I am very mistaken, 2.5 inch drives do not have a separate > power connector. > > Cheers/2 > > Ed. > To expand - the power has to come down the data cable - it is indeed fed into the data cable via the adapter cable, however if I understood the original post it is the ribbon cable that melted ? Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 12 ==========================** Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:23:21 +1000 (EST) From: "Voytek Eymont" Subject: Re: 2.5/3.5 HD converter up in flames? > To expand - the power has to come down the data cable - it is indeed fed > into the data cable via the adapter cable, however if I understood the > original post it is the ribbon cable that melted ? Ed, ribbon plugs into an adapter, also, power cable plug into the adapter; the power cables do not seem to connect to the ribbon side on the hard drive side; red power connects to 3 pins, black to 1 pin adjacent immediately to it; it may connect to other pins on disk side, not thoroughly tested yet -- Voytek ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 13 ==========================** Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:30:06 +1100 From: Alan Duval Subject: Re: Inkscape Ed Durrant wrote: > Alan Duval wrote: >> Ed Durrant wrote: >>> Alan Duval wrote: >>>> Ed Durrant wrote: >>>>> Alan Duval wrote: >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> Is anyone porting Inkscape to eCS? We could do with a good >>>>>> vector drawing application. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Alan Duval >>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>>>> Is this an open source program ? Is there a Windows version of it >>>>> and will that work via ODIN ? >>>> Yes! it's open source. It's a well known Linux program and is very >>>> good. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Alan >>>> >>> Hi Alan - my question was - are there windows Binaries for it ? You >>> may be able to sponsor someone to compile the source code for OS/2 / >>> eComStation via the Netlabs sponsorship program, however in the >>> interim a simpler and quicker option may be to try the Windows >>> version (if there is one) under ODIN. >> Hi Ed, >> >> A windows.exe is available so I guess the binaries would be >> available. I don't know how to go about sponsoring someone to compile >> the source code for OS/2 but I'll investigate. At present I just >> replace my removable drive with one that has Linux installed and use >> Inkscape that way. Knoppix Live is also useful as it has a phenomenal >> number of programs. >> So far I haven't had much luck with ODIN. Can't seem to get it to >> recognize anything. It seems that development of it has ceased. >> >> Regards, >> >> Alan > I think our e-mails crossed - as you will see I have already installed > Inkscape under ODIN under eCS - hopefully just need to source the > missing Windows DLLs. Hi Ed, Thanks for trying. The other vector drawing program which is very good is XARA EXTREME. I think this was originally a windows program and was then open sourced and is available for Linux. Regards, Alan ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 14 ==========================** Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:56:18 +1100 From: Alan Duval Subject: Xara Xtreme Hi, I've just found the URL for Xara Xtreme. Regards, Alan Duval ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------