From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 00:01:01 EST-10EDT,10,1,0,7200,4,1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1727 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Monday 13 October 2008 Number 1727 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 eCS trashcan problems again : Ed Durrant 2 Re: eCS trashcan problems again : Mike O'Connor 3 Re: eCS trashcan problems again : Ed Durrant 4 Re: eCS trashcan problems again : Mike O'Connor 5 Re: eCS trashcan problems again : Ed Durrant 6 Re: eCS trashcan problems again : Ed Durrant 7 Re: eCS trashcan problems again : Mike O'Connor 8 Re: eCS trashcan problems again - fixup to clarify : Mike O'Connor **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 09:16:09 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: eCS trashcan problems again Having copied a very large directory (~4GB) from my C: (OS/2 Warp boot drive - HPFS) to a data only JFS K: drive , I deleted the directory on the C: drive from my running eCS 2.0RC3 G: drive. That was fine until I try to empty the trashcan - when I do this the WPS gets restarted and the trashcan is not emptied. Any ideas ? Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 09:16:56 +1000 From: Mike O'Connor Subject: Re: eCS trashcan problems again Ed Durrant wrote: > Having copied a very large directory (~4GB) from my C: (OS/2 Warp boot > drive - HPFS) to a data only JFS K: drive > , I deleted the directory on the C: drive from my running eCS 2.0RC3 > G: drive. That was fine until I try to empty the trashcan - when I do > this the WPS gets restarted and the trashcan is not emptied. Any ideas ? > > Cheers/2 > > Ed. Hi Ed, I guess no-one anticipated someone putting a single 4GB object into the trashcan! :-( Is the single directory the only item in the trashcan? (If there are other smaller items in there also - select these and from context menu "destroy"!) If so have you instituted another (same-named) replacement directory on the C: drive? If not and there is still room for it on C:, do a restore of the trashcan object, then disable the trashcan temporarily, and open that directory in FM/2 - Visual Tree - select all - "delete permanently". Otherwise - just temporarily disable trashcan, reboot to same G: volume, open Visual Tree, with C:\Trash. If there is just a \0 subdirectory of trash, select it and "delete permanently", then do same to its parent - or if there are others e.g. \1,\2 etc., multi-select them and do same operation, then reboot and re-enable Trashcan function. HTH Regards, Mike ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 20:54:19 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: eCS trashcan problems again Mike O'Connor wrote: > Ed Durrant wrote: >> Having copied a very large directory (~4GB) from my C: (OS/2 Warp >> boot drive - HPFS) to a data only JFS K: drive >> , I deleted the directory on the C: drive from my running eCS 2.0RC3 >> G: drive. That was fine until I try to empty the trashcan - when I do >> this the WPS gets restarted and the trashcan is not emptied. Any ideas ? >> >> Cheers/2 >> >> Ed. > Hi Ed, > > I guess no-one anticipated someone putting a single 4GB object into > the trashcan! :-( > > Is the single directory the only item in the trashcan? > (If there are other smaller items in there also - select these and > from context menu "destroy"!) > If so have you instituted another (same-named) replacement directory > on the C: drive? > If not and there is still room for it on C:, do a restore of the > trashcan object, then disable the trashcan temporarily, and open that > directory in FM/2 - Visual Tree - select all - "delete permanently". > > Otherwise - just temporarily disable trashcan, reboot to same G: > volume, open Visual Tree, with C:\Trash. If there is just a \0 > subdirectory of trash, select it and "delete permanently", then do > same to its parent - or if there are others e.g. \1,\2 etc., > multi-select them and do same operation, then reboot and re-enable > Trashcan function. > > HTH > > Regards, > Mike > > > Well there's no Trash directory on C: or G: - only DELETE directories that I just removed to be safe. There is however a Trash directory on the K: drive (where I copied the files to before deleting the originals on C: ), but this wont let me delete it - it says it does but it doesn't go and also the files I deleted are not in this directory. How does one disable trash can - all I did was go into it's properties and removed all drives from the list. Is there another method ? Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 20:06:28 +1000 From: Mike O'Connor Subject: Re: eCS trashcan problems again Ed Durrant wrote: > Mike O'Connor wrote: >> Ed Durrant wrote: >>> Having copied a very large directory (~4GB) from my C: (OS/2 Warp >>> boot drive - HPFS) to a data only JFS K: drive >>> , I deleted the directory on the C: drive from my running eCS 2.0RC3 >>> G: drive. That was fine until I try to empty the trashcan - when I >>> do this the WPS gets restarted and the trashcan is not emptied. Any >>> ideas ? >>> >>> Cheers/2 >>> >>> Ed. >> Hi Ed, >> >> I guess no-one anticipated someone putting a single 4GB object into >> the trashcan! :-( >> >> Is the single directory the only item in the trashcan? >> (If there are other smaller items in there also - select these and >> from context menu "destroy"!) >> If so have you instituted another (same-named) replacement directory >> on the C: drive? >> If not and there is still room for it on C:, do a restore of the >> trashcan object, then disable the trashcan temporarily, and open that >> directory in FM/2 - Visual Tree - select all - "delete permanently". >> >> Otherwise - just temporarily disable trashcan, reboot to same G: >> volume, open Visual Tree, with C:\Trash. If there is just a \0 >> subdirectory of trash, select it and "delete permanently", then do >> same to its parent - or if there are others e.g. \1,\2 etc., >> multi-select them and do same operation, then reboot and re-enable >> Trashcan function. >> >> HTH > Well there's no Trash directory on C: or G: - only DELETE directories > that I just removed to be safe. > > There is however a Trash directory on the K: drive (where I copied the > files to before deleting the originals on C: ), but this wont let me > delete it - it says it does but it doesn't go and also the files I > deleted are not in this directory. > > How does one disable trash can - all I did was go into it's properties > and removed all drives from the list. Is there another method ? > > Cheers/2 > > Ed. Hi Ed, On the trashcan's context menu - first tab - last entry : "Always delete immediately(never use trash can) The DELETE directories are only there if you have the DELDIR line un-remmed in your config.sys - they're useless these days , as AFAIK the original 512KB total limit per drive has never been increased! :-( You will probably have to go completely out of the WPS and boot to an eCS AltF1+F2 prompt to delete them in that case. The \trash directory tree is by default hidden - are you sure youhaven't un-hidden the one on K: drive/ I don't know whether you have all of the FM/2 utilities, including deltree.exe - I have it in all of my current FM/2 installations, but I might have just copied it in from my original bought one? Regards, Mike ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 22:18:04 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: eCS trashcan problems again OK so I've now correctly disabled the trash can, but it still wont let me use visual tree to permanently delete the directory - it comes back with access denied. I just hate this trash can in eCS, it's just nothing but trouble. Cheers/2 Ed. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 22:19:56 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: eCS trashcan problems again Mike O'Connor wrote: > Ed Durrant wrote: >> Mike O'Connor wrote: >>> Ed Durrant wrote: >>>> Having copied a very large directory (~4GB) from my C: (OS/2 Warp >>>> boot drive - HPFS) to a data only JFS K: drive >>>> , I deleted the directory on the C: drive from my running eCS >>>> 2.0RC3 G: drive. That was fine until I try to empty the trashcan - >>>> when I do this the WPS gets restarted and the trashcan is not >>>> emptied. Any ideas ? >>>> >>>> Cheers/2 >>>> >>>> Ed. >>> Hi Ed, >>> >>> I guess no-one anticipated someone putting a single 4GB object into >>> the trashcan! :-( >>> >>> Is the single directory the only item in the trashcan? >>> (If there are other smaller items in there also - select these and >>> from context menu "destroy"!) >>> If so have you instituted another (same-named) replacement directory >>> on the C: drive? >>> If not and there is still room for it on C:, do a restore of the >>> trashcan object, then disable the trashcan temporarily, and open >>> that directory in FM/2 - Visual Tree - select all - "delete >>> permanently". >>> >>> Otherwise - just temporarily disable trashcan, reboot to same G: >>> volume, open Visual Tree, with C:\Trash. If there is just a \0 >>> subdirectory of trash, select it and "delete permanently", then do >>> same to its parent - or if there are others e.g. \1,\2 etc., >>> multi-select them and do same operation, then reboot and re-enable >>> Trashcan function. >>> >>> HTH >> Well there's no Trash directory on C: or G: - only DELETE directories >> that I just removed to be safe. >> >> There is however a Trash directory on the K: drive (where I copied >> the files to before deleting the originals on C: ), but this wont let >> me delete it - it says it does but it doesn't go and also the files >> I deleted are not in this directory. >> >> How does one disable trash can - all I did was go into it's >> properties and removed all drives from the list. Is there another >> method ? >> >> Cheers/2 >> >> Ed. > Hi Ed, > > On the trashcan's context menu - first tab - last entry : > > "Always delete immediately(never use trash can) > > The DELETE directories are only there if you have the DELDIR line > un-remmed in your config.sys - they're useless these days , as AFAIK > the original 512KB total limit per drive has never been increased! :-( > > You will probably have to go completely out of the WPS and boot to an > eCS AltF1+F2 prompt to delete them in that case. > > The \trash directory tree is by default hidden - are you sure > youhaven't un-hidden the one on K: drive/ > > I don't know whether you have all of the FM/2 utilities, including > deltree.exe - I have it in all of my current FM/2 installations, but I > might have just copied it in from my original bought one? > > Regards, > Mike Using attrib on C: and G: drives - there's definitely no TRASH directory there. Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 7 ==========================** Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:33:03 +1000 From: Mike O'Connor Subject: Re: eCS trashcan problems again Ed Durrant wrote: > OK so I've now correctly disabled the trash can, but it still wont let > me use visual tree to permanently delete the directory - it comes back > with access denied. > > I just hate this trash can in eCS, it's just nothing but trouble. > > Cheers/2 Hi Ed, Try first going into full FM/2 window - open that drive, then \Trash and in RH-pane RMB on \Trash\0, \trash\1 etc., in sequenceand for each one - RMB then select 'Edit ..." >> "Extended attributes" - (if any) then delete the subdirectories, and the at mapping file and finishing up with "Classinfo" EA on \Trash itself- then delete the \Trash directory! HTH Mike ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 8 ==========================** Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:38:33 +1000 From: Mike O'Connor Subject: Re: eCS trashcan problems again - fixup to clarify Ed Durrant wrote: > OK so I've now correctly disabled the trash can, but it still wont let > me use visual tree to permanently delete the directory - it comes back > with access denied. > > I just hate this trash can in eCS, it's just nothing but trouble. > > Cheers/2 i meant to say: Hi Ed, Try first going into full FM/2 window - open that drive, then \Trash and in RH-pane RMB on \0, \1 etc., in sequence and for each one - RMB them and then select 'Edit ..." >> "Extended attributes" and delete each EA (if any)after selecting them, then delete those subdirectories, and the associated " at mapping" file and finishing up with deleting the "Classinfo" EA on \Trash itself- then delete that \Trash directory! HTH Mike ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------