From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 00:00:50 AET-10EDT,10,1,0,7200,4,1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1735 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Friday 31 October 2008 Number 1735 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 Re: Connecting a Sony W910i to the internet : Wayne 2 Re: Connecting a Sony W910i to the internet : Ed Durrant 3 Re: Connecting to NextG WAS Connecting a Sony W910i to the internet : Wayne 4 Re: Connecting a Sony W910i to the internet : Peter Moylan 5 Re: Connecting a Sony W910i to the internet : Peter Moylan 6 Re: Connecting a Sony W910i to the internet : Wayne **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 06:39:19 +0930 From: Wayne Subject: Re: Connecting a Sony W910i to the internet ** Reply to note from Peter Moylan Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:48:53 +1100 On 30/10/08 22:18, Wayne wrote: >> As a test, I tried connecting under windoze using Injoy v3 (comes with 2 >> NDIS drivers), success if drivers are installed, failed if not. > > The fact that the extra NDIS drivers are required in Windows is very > suggestive. As I recall it, NDIS files are plain text files that OS/2 also > uses. Thus, you might have some luck in installing those NDIS files into > OS/2. > > -- Peter Moylan peter at pmoylan dot org http://www.pmoylan dot org > I found the 2 drivers but they are binary. How would I attempt to install them? My test was done using XP. Relevant dirs:- fx fx.sys OemSeNT.inf OemWin2k.inf fxdod fxdod.sys OemSeNT.inf OemWin2k.inf Cheers Wayne ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 08:08:43 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Connecting a Sony W910i to the internet Wayne wrote: > Hi all > > I have been trying for months to get this phone (ME) connected to the net via > Three using Injoy v3. It seems to fail in the "handshaking" stage. Could this > be due to ethernet? Any suggestions welcome. > > Some relevant info:- > > This ME has ethernet capabilities (undocumented). > This ME has MSD capabilities (trapping). > Took the SIM card out & put it in the Samsung & it connected to Three > successfully (roaming charges apply). > As a test, I tried connecting under windoze using Injoy v3 (comes with 2 > NDIS drivers), success if drivers are installed, failed if not. > I have a Samsung SGH-A501 connected to Telstra NextG successfully. > Emailed Injoy regarding this (no response). > Emailed Yahoo Injoy mailing list (didn't even appear on the list). > > No, I have no intention of accessing the internet using doze. > > Cheers > Wayne > > > > > Hi Wayne, we may be able to help each other here. I have an LG working with "three" (you've probably seen my article in the voice newsletter from a few years back) - and yes since I've moved I also have to bear low speed and roaming charges if I use this. I have just got a Next-G Samsung SGH-A411 which I'm having a couple of issues with handshaking to Next-G. You say you have your A501 working with Next-G - can you send me the config string details please ? On the Sony - can you cut and paste the (trace on) messages from Injoy (in fact if you haven't already done so compare what you have set against what are in the screenshots in my article) - you might want to send all this info direct rather than on-list. In case you don't have it - here's the reference to my article: http://www.os2voice dot org/VNL/past_issues/VNL0606H/feature_1.html Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 12:05:06 +0930 From: Wayne Subject: Re: Connecting to NextG WAS Connecting a Sony W910i to the internet ** Reply to note from Ed Durrant Fri, 31 Oct 2008 08:08:43 +1100 > > Wayne wrote: > > Hi all > > > > I have been trying for months to get this phone (ME) connected to the net via > > Three using Injoy v3. It seems to fail in the "handshaking" stage. Could this > > be due to ethernet? Any suggestions welcome. > > > > Cheers > > Wayne > > > > > > > Hi Wayne, > > we may be able to help each other here. I have an LG working with > "three" (you've probably seen my article in the voice newsletter from a few > years back) - and yes since I've moved I also have to bear low speed > and roaming charges if I use this. I have just got a Next-G Samsung > SGH-A411 which I'm having a couple of issues with handshaking to > Next-G. > > You say you have your A501 working with Next-G - can you send me the > config string details please ? > > On the Sony - can you cut and paste the (trace on) messages from Injoy > (in fact if you haven't already done so compare what you have set > against what are in the screenshots in my article) - you might want to send > all this info direct rather than on-list. > > In case you don't have it - here's the reference to my article: > > http://www.os2voice dot org/VNL/past_issues/VNL0606H/feature_1.html > > > Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Hi Ed I will send the Sony trace privately. Connecting the Samsung (ME) we can do via this list so that others can benefit. Yes I used your excellent article as a basis & I had lots of teething troubles but the final settings were vastly different & now NextG is rock solid. 1st thing to do is see if any CIDs are already set in the ME. My Samsung had none set, the Sony had 2 CIDs set. To see what is set, use a terminal program (eg. Zoc) & enter AT+CGDCONT? & let me know what the output is. Here is a copy from mine:- at+cgdcont? +CGDCONT: 1,"IP","telstra.internet","",0,0 +CGDCONT: 2,"IP","3netaccess","",0,0 OK I put CID2 in whilst experimenting & I can change it but not delete it. CAVEAT:- Entering indiscriminate AT commands can do nasty things. It is quite safe if it ends in ? or =?. This just queries a setting or a range of settings. Cheers Wayne ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:44:51 +1100 From: Peter Moylan Subject: Re: Connecting a Sony W910i to the internet On 31/10/08 08:09, Wayne wrote: > ** Reply to note from Peter Moylan Thu, 30 Oct > 2008 22:48:53 +1100 > > On 30/10/08 22:18, Wayne wrote: > > >> As a test, I tried connecting under windoze using Injoy v3 (comes > >> with 2 NDIS drivers), success if drivers are installed, failed > >> if not. > > > The fact that the extra NDIS drivers are required in Windows is > > very suggestive. As I recall it, NDIS files are plain text files > > that OS/2 also uses. Thus, you might have some luck in installing > > those NDIS files into OS/2. > > I found the 2 drivers but they are binary. How would I attempt to > install them? My test was done using XP. Sorry for misleading you. It was my faulty memory. It's the NIF file that's plain text, not the NDIS file. However, it looks to me as if the NDIS file is simply a file of parameter settings, not an executable file; if you look at it with a plain text editor you get something that's almost readable, like a word processor file. The next bit is ancient memory talking to me, and can't entirely be trusted. However, I seem to recall a bit of folklore about ethernet adapters that basically said "if your adapter doesn't have OS/2 support, don't worry, just install the generic NDIS support that most manufacturers supply". (Similarly, most graphics cards are VESA-compatible, which means that if you don't have a card-specific driver then a generic VESA driver will still work, albeit without access to any special "accelerator" features that the card might have.) This suggests to me that OS/2 already includes a generic NDIS driver, which requires only some configuration files that specify parameters that the NDIS driver uses to know how to the specific hardware. In case it's any help, I'm reproducing below the installation instructions for a D-Link adapter that I have. They are practically identical to the installation instructions for every other ethernet adaptor I've seen. The only device-specific part is where you have to supply a path to the device-specific files. At that point, if the files are usable by the OS/2 software then it will let you move to the next step of the installation, and all will be OK. If they're not usable, the MPTS installer will say it can't find the files it needs. In that case you're screwed, of course. Install the NDIS driver for IBM LAN SERVER 4.0 ??????????????????????????????????????????????  In the OS/2 Desktop group, double-click on the MPTS icon.  Click on the button.  Select the "LAN adapters and protocols" option.  Click on the button.  Select the "Other adapters ..." option.  Insert the driver diskette in Drive A or B and type the driver path: A:\\ Where PATH is the driver directory. or C:\\ (if install program specify)  Click on the button.  Select "D-Link PCI Ethernet Adapter", and then click on the Add button.  Select "IBM OS/2 NETBIOS", and then click on the Add button.  Select "IBM IEEE 802.2", and then click on the Add button.  Click OK.  Click Close.  Click Exit.  Reboot your system. -- Peter Moylan peter at pmoylan dot org http://www.pmoylan dot org ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:53:54 +1100 From: Peter Moylan Subject: Re: Connecting a Sony W910i to the internet P.S. I'll be off the air for the next little while. I've just taken delivery of a refurbished IBM Thinkcentre M50. (No monitor or keyboard, and the case is a little scratched, but I think it'll be worth the $300 it cost me. The M50 got good reviews on the Russian eCS website.) The next step is to try to replace Windows with eCS. If that works, the machine I'm using to send this message will be retired from the desktop and put to work as a pure server. But from past experience I know that it takes days to configure a new computer with the desired applications, to migrate things like mail and bookmarks, etc. Actually, I still haven't even gotten as far as finding out whether the old computer will boot without a keyboard attached. Those old jokes about "No keyboard. Press any key to continue" weren't joking. It really happens. I'm just hoping that there's a BIOS setting to suppress the search for a keyboard. -- Peter Moylan peter at pmoylan dot org http://www.pmoylan dot org ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:53:35 +0930 From: Wayne Subject: Re: Connecting a Sony W910i to the internet ** Reply to note from Peter Moylan Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:44:51 +1100 > > > > > I found the 2 drivers but they are binary. How would I attempt to > > install them? My test was done using XP. > > Sorry for misleading you. It was my faulty memory. It's the NIF file that's > plain text, not the NDIS file. However, it looks to me as if the NDIS file is > simply a file of parameter settings, not an executable file; if you look at it > with a plain text editor you get something that's almost readable, like a > word processor file. > > The next bit is ancient memory talking to me, and can't entirely be > trusted. However, I seem to recall a bit of folklore about ethernet adapters > that basically said "if your adapter doesn't have OS/2 support, don't > worry, just install the generic NDIS support that most manufacturers > supply". (Similarly, most graphics cards are VESA-compatible, which > means that if you don't have a card-specific driver then a generic VESA > driver will still work, albeit without access to any special "accelerator" > features that the card might have.) This suggests to me that OS/2 already > includes a generic NDIS driver, which requires only some configuration > files that specify parameters that the NDIS driver uses to know how to the > specific hardware. > > -- Peter Moylan peter at pmoylan dot org http://www.pmoylan dot org > OS2's .nif & .os2 are roughly the equivilant to windoze .inf & .sys files. However, a .nif has different & more info in it. To translate a .inf to .nif is way beyond me & probably wouldn't be covered by Genmac either. Thanks for your help. I will be away from a pc for the rest of the day. Cheers Wayne ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------