From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 00:00:45 AET-10EDT,10,1,0,7200,4,1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1753 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Friday 05 December 2008 Number 1753 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 Re: large drives and long JFS format : Ian Manners" 2 Re: large drives and long JFS format : Ed Durrant 3 Re: large drives and long JFS format : Mike O'Connor 4 Re: large drives and long JFS format : Ed Durrant 5 Re: large drives and long JFS format : Mike O'Connor **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 11:49:30 +1100 (EDT) From: "Ian Manners" Subject: Re: large drives and long JFS format Hi Ed, >I wonder why this version of LVM is not shipped with eCS 2.0 RC ?? Is >there a possible conflict with other software ? No idea, I've used it for a while without any problems. >I'm guessing the update file you name is on os2site ? in the SWC section so you will need to get it from ecomstation dot com if you are registered. I've checked and its there as the exe version. >I've just remembered this is a SATA-II drive on a SATA-I controller, so >this will take longer, but days that does seem to be a real restriction >to using current sized drives under eCS. I know one would normally long >format the drive but I have had some large copies fail to it and it was >one suggestion to see if the problem was with the format on the drive. There is also a thread on it at os2world dot com. It appears some people have problems with drives greater than 500Gb, I've been running a 5xxGb Seagate SATA-II drive now for at least 12 months with no problems so I wonder if their problem is a combination of things, Dani's driver ? Would need some indepth testing to find out. Hmm, that is also a possibility, maybe it only works with IBM's IDE driver and not Dani's and that might be the reason its not shipped with eCS RC's ? Cheers Ian Manners http://www.os2site dot com/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:26:28 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: large drives and long JFS format Hi Ian, Already found the file at ecomstation dot com and have installed it all OK (the exe needs the -d to break out the subdirectories of course, something that is often forgotten). As for it being used with IBM rather than DANI, I didn't think the IBM driver supported SATA drives does it ? Cheers/2 Ed. Ian Manners wrote: > Hi Ed, > > >> I wonder why this version of LVM is not shipped with eCS 2.0 RC ?? Is >> there a possible conflict with other software ? >> > > No idea, I've used it for a while without any problems. > > >> I'm guessing the update file you name is on os2site ? >> > > in the SWC section so you will need to get it from ecomstation dot com > if you are registered. I've checked and its there as the exe > version. > > >> I've just remembered this is a SATA-II drive on a SATA-I controller, so >> this will take longer, but days that does seem to be a real restriction >> to using current sized drives under eCS. I know one would normally long >> format the drive but I have had some large copies fail to it and it was >> one suggestion to see if the problem was with the format on the drive. >> > > There is also a thread on it at os2world dot com. > It appears some people have problems with drives greater than > 500Gb, I've been running a 5xxGb Seagate SATA-II drive now for > at least 12 months with no problems so I wonder if their problem > is a combination of things, Dani's driver ? > Would need some indepth testing to find out. > > Hmm, that is also a possibility, maybe it only works with IBM's > IDE driver and not Dani's and that might be the reason its not > shipped with eCS RC's ? > > Cheers > Ian Manners > http://www.os2site dot com/ > > > =========================================== > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:00:29 +1000 From: Mike O'Connor Subject: Re: large drives and long JFS format Ed Durrant wrote: > Hi Ian, > > Already found the file at ecomstation dot com and have installed it all OK > (the exe needs the -d to break out the subdirectories of course, > something that is often forgotten). > > As for it being used with IBM rather than DANI, I didn't think the IBM > driver supported SATA drives does it ? > > Cheers/2 > > Ed. Hi Ed, You mainly need the updated os2dasd.dmd with the /FULLSIZE switch - from first usage - i.e. a virgin disk - clean it off with DFSee! See the contents of idedasd.txt as passed in PM. Regards, Mike ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:18:45 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: large drives and long JFS format Mike O'Connor wrote: > Ed Durrant wrote: >> Hi Ian, >> >> Already found the file at ecomstation dot com and have installed it all >> OK (the exe needs the -d to break out the subdirectories of course, >> something that is often forgotten). >> >> As for it being used with IBM rather than DANI, I didn't think the >> IBM driver supported SATA drives does it ? >> >> Cheers/2 >> >> Ed. > Hi Ed, > > You mainly need the updated os2dasd.dmd with the /FULLSIZE switch - > from first usage - i.e. a virgin disk - clean it off with DFSee! See > the contents of idedasd.txt as passed in PM. > > Regards, > Mike > > > Is it relevant that this is SATA not IDE as you refer to IDEDASD.TXT and as per my other e-mail, this is not a bottable system disk only a data drive. Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:32:50 +1000 From: Mike O'Connor Subject: Re: large drives and long JFS format Ed Durrant wrote: > Is it relevant that this is SATA not IDE as you refer to IDEDASD.TXT > and as per my other e-mail, this is not a bottable system disk only a > data drive. > > Cheers/2 > > Ed. Hi Ed, SATA is still IDE, same as PATA is [Integrated Drive Electronics]! Still handled by OS2DASD.DMD - but ANY non-booting drives larger than 512GB need to have the /FULLSIZE switch - and it needs to be on a clean - empty disk. Still using DANIS506.ADD not IMBS506.ADD! 5.4. Serial ATA for Intel Chipsets Considerations _________________________________________________ The IBM1S506.ADD driver automatically detects Intel Serial ATA and Parallel ATA controllers described in section 5.1 and enables the highest possible DMA/UDMA modes for all drives. For PATA devices (know also as standard IDE devices or ATA devices) the maximum transfer rate for Intel IDE controllers is ATA100. For SATA devices this is SATA150. For SATA devices parameters /UDMA:n and /!UDMA (see section 3.8 for details) have no effect. SATA devices in DMA mode will always operate in the maximum possible transfer rate. 5.5. Intel 82801FR and 82801GR support in IBM1S506.ADD ______________________________________________________ IBM1S506.ADD driver supports "R" versions of chipsets (82801FR and 82801GR) only in legacy mode if the SATA controller is configured to operate as an IDE controller (in legacy mode) by the system BIOS. If the ICH6R or ICH7R SATA controller is configured to operate as RAID or if AHCI mode is enabled, then the IBM1S506 driver will not detect the SATA controller. The IBM1S506 driver does not support any RAID functionality and the IBM1S506 does not support SATA controllers in AHCI mode. No non-INTEL SATA controllers supported - and note last line above! Regards, Mike ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------