From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:00:41 AET-10EDT,10,1,0,7200,4,1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1772 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Wednesday 28 January 2009 Number 1772 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 ot: GPRS NextG/3G mobile data Q : Voytek Eymont" 2 Re: ot: GPRS NextG/3G mobile data Q : Ed Durrant 3 Re: ot: GPRS NextG/3G mobile data Q : Ed Durrant 4 Re: ot: GPRS NextG/3G mobile data Q : Voytek Eymont" **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:18:02 +1100 (EST) From: "Voytek Eymont" Subject: ot: GPRS NextG/3G mobile data Q I currently use Palm h/h with a bluetooth GPRS phone, that works fine for email/net access; I'm thinking of getting a 'faster data phone' like NextG, again, to use from Palm over bluetooth Palm's standard net access command is like: ATDT*99# I went to a Telstra shop and tried a Motorola NextG phone, it seems to work OK with my current driver for net access (except for SMS retrieval) apart from mini icons on phone's screen, how can I see what speed I'm connecting ? (I think) phone screen showed 'GPRS Active' and a '3G' mini icon will ATDT*99# estabilish a 3G/NextG connection ? does 'GPRS Active' appears on 3G connection ? Palm is bluetooth 1.1, so I expect that will be the bottle neck in this, AFAIK, BT 1.1 is 1Mb/sec, should I expect to see abt 1Mb/sec ? is dslreports dot com/mspeed best way to test it? (fwiw, on GPRS I get around 27~38 kb/sec and 1.2sec latency) -- Voytek ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:28:50 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: ot: GPRS NextG/3G mobile data Q Voytek Eymont wrote: > I currently use Palm h/h with a bluetooth GPRS phone, that works fine for > email/net access; > > I'm thinking of getting a 'faster data phone' like NextG, again, to use > from Palm over bluetooth > > Palm's standard net access command is like: ATDT*99# > > I went to a Telstra shop and tried a Motorola NextG phone, it seems to > work OK with my current driver for net access (except for SMS retrieval) > > apart from mini icons on phone's screen, how can I see what speed I'm > connecting ? > (I think) phone screen showed 'GPRS Active' and a '3G' mini icon > > will ATDT*99# estabilish a 3G/NextG connection ? > > does 'GPRS Active' appears on 3G connection ? > > Palm is bluetooth 1.1, so I expect that will be the bottle neck in this, > AFAIK, BT 1.1 is 1Mb/sec, should I expect to see abt 1Mb/sec ? > > is dslreports dot com/mspeed best way to test it? > > (fwiw, on GPRS I get around 27~38 kb/sec and 1.2sec latency) > > > > > > Generally 3G phones will not give you the same throughput speed as usb dongle modems. when I use my "3" 3G phone I get about 384Kb/s when I use my Next-G phone, I think I get about twice that. The Next-G network is capable of a theoretical speed of up to 7.2 Mb/s - If you get 1 or 1.5Mb/s from a Next-G phone, I suspect thats the best you should hope for. 3G networking uses HSDPA rather than GPRS. Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:37:27 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: ot: GPRS NextG/3G mobile data Q Ed Durrant wrote: > Voytek Eymont wrote: >> I currently use Palm h/h with a bluetooth GPRS phone, that works fine >> for >> email/net access; >> >> I'm thinking of getting a 'faster data phone' like NextG, again, to use >> from Palm over bluetooth >> >> Palm's standard net access command is like: ATDT*99# >> >> I went to a Telstra shop and tried a Motorola NextG phone, it seems to >> work OK with my current driver for net access (except for SMS retrieval) >> >> apart from mini icons on phone's screen, how can I see what speed I'm >> connecting ? >> (I think) phone screen showed 'GPRS Active' and a '3G' mini icon >> >> will ATDT*99# estabilish a 3G/NextG connection ? >> >> does 'GPRS Active' appears on 3G connection ? >> >> Palm is bluetooth 1.1, so I expect that will be the bottle neck in this, >> AFAIK, BT 1.1 is 1Mb/sec, should I expect to see abt 1Mb/sec ? >> >> is dslreports dot com/mspeed best way to test it? >> >> (fwiw, on GPRS I get around 27~38 kb/sec and 1.2sec latency) >> >> >> >> >> >> > Generally 3G phones will not give you the same throughput speed as usb > dongle modems. when I use my "3" 3G phone I get about 384Kb/s when I > use my Next-G phone, I think I get about twice that. The Next-G > network is capable of a theoretical speed of up to 7.2 Mb/s - If you > get 1 or 1.5Mb/s from a Next-G phone, I suspect thats the best you > should hope for. > > 3G networking uses HSDPA rather than GPRS. > > Cheers/2 > > Ed. > > > > By the way - the string you need to set the APN for Telstra Next-G is: AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP"."telstra.internet",,0,0 and to check the connection speed possibilities INTO the modem: AT+IPR=? Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:11:31 +1100 (EST) From: "Voytek Eymont" Subject: Re: ot: GPRS NextG/3G mobile data Q > Voytek Eymont wrote: > Generally 3G phones will not give you the same throughput speed as usb > dongle modems. Ed, I do not have any portable equipment with an USB port, so, not much use for me... > when I use my "3" 3G phone I get about 384Kb/s when I use my > Next-G phone, I think I get about twice that. The Next-G network is > capable of a theoretical speed of up to 7.2 Mb/s - If you get 1 or 1.5Mb/s > from a Next-G phone, I suspect thats the best you should hope for. > > 3G networking uses HSDPA rather than GPRS. when I tried the Telstra phone, 'GPRS active' lit up, as well as '3G' mini icon, the connection was certainly faster than my normal GPRS, googlemaps lookup would take about 5 seconds, compared to 15~30 on a GPRS phone as the Palm is BT1.1, that only 1MB or even less, so that will throttle my thruput, anyhow have you used a 'phone as a modem' ? if so, when you 'dial up', does the phone display 'GPRS Active' ? I need to locate a terminal app for a Palm, used to have one, but not on this TX -- Voytek ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------