From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 00:01:22 AET-10EDT,10,1,0,7200,4,1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1782 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Saturday 14 February 2009 Number 1782 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 Re: ot: GPRS NextG/3G mobile data Q : Voytek Eymont" 2 Re: ot: GPRS NextG/3G mobile data Q : Ed Durrant 3 Re: ot: GPRS NextG/3G mobile data Q : Voytek Eymont" 4 How to point different versions of FF to different add-on extensions? : Ed Durrant 5 Re: drag and drop url objects like web..? linkbuilder : John Angelico" 6 Re: How to point different versions of FF to different add-on extensions? : Chuck McKinnis 7 Re: drag and drop url objects like web..? linkbuilder : Peter Moylan 8 Re: How to point different versions of FF to different add-on extensions? : Ed Durrant 9 Re: How to point different versions of FF to different add-on extensions? : Ed Durrant 10 Re: How to point different versions of FF to different add-on extensions? : Ed Durrant 11 Re: How to point different versions of FF to different add-on extensions? : Mike O'Connor 12 Re: drag and drop url objects like web..? linkbuilder : John Angelico" **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 00:03:26 +1100 (EST) From: "Voytek Eymont" Subject: Re: ot: GPRS NextG/3G mobile data Q > Voytek Eymont wrote: > I have used both my "3" phone and my Next-G phone as modems to my EeePC > and Thinkpads, both under Windoze and eCS. The "3" phone doesn't have an > indicator and my Next-G phone appears to only have a 3G indicator, or at > least I haven't GPRS ever displayed. I think I have it largely worked out: Motorola phone brings up 'GPRS data' when something links to it via bluetooth, rather than, USB cable (that brings 'USB link' in same LCD space. so, that 'gprs' screen label appears purely an indication of terminal connection to the phone; not an indication of net link (as I thought) '3g' icon lights up to indicate network availability, 'h' only lights up during data transfer, once traffic stops, 'h' reverts to '3g' the dslreports/mspeed, not sure how reliable it really is, today, it told me 5k test file was too small, offered 200/400/1m, in the past, I've used 200k, now, it told me even 200 was 'too small' tried 400, gave lousy results I did some gmaps lookup from Palm, '3g' icon altered to 'h' during data transfer. so all's well -- Voytek -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 07:17:24 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: ot: GPRS NextG/3G mobile data Q Voytek Eymont wrote: > > >> Voytek Eymont wrote: >> > > >> I have used both my "3" phone and my Next-G phone as modems to my EeePC >> and Thinkpads, both under Windoze and eCS. The "3" phone doesn't have an >> indicator and my Next-G phone appears to only have a 3G indicator, or at >> least I haven't GPRS ever displayed. >> > > > I think I have it largely worked out: > > Motorola phone brings up 'GPRS data' when something links to it via > bluetooth, rather than, USB cable (that brings 'USB link' in same LCD > space. > > so, that 'gprs' screen label appears purely an indication of terminal > connection to the phone; not an indication of net link (as I thought) > > '3g' icon lights up to indicate network availability, 'h' only lights up > during data transfer, once traffic stops, 'h' reverts to '3g' > > the dslreports/mspeed, not sure how reliable it really is, today, it told > me 5k test file was too small, offered 200/400/1m, in the past, I've used > 200k, now, it told me even 200 was 'too small' tried 400, gave lousy > results > > I did some gmaps lookup from Palm, '3g' icon altered to 'h' during data > transfer. > > so all's well > > > That's good to hear, Speed on 3G does vary a lot at times depending where you are. If you are in a good location 3G can operate in HSDPA mode which in theory can run up to 7.2 Mb/s download speed but normally this is only possible with a 3G modem rather than a 3G phone. Cheers/2 Ed. -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 08:32:45 +1100 (EST) From: "Voytek Eymont" Subject: Re: ot: GPRS NextG/3G mobile data Q > Voytek Eymont wrote: > That's good to hear, Speed on 3G does vary a lot at times depending > where you are. If you are in a good location 3G can operate in HSDPA mode > which in theory can run up to 7.2 Mb/s download speed but normally this is > only possible with a 3G modem rather than a 3G phone. Ed, my mobile is 'only' capable of 3.6MB/s, and, the target Palm device is on bluetooth 1.1, so anything over abt. 1MB/s is of scientific interest only and, as I only buy/use 5MB per month, the difference is.... but it sure is faster than my GPRS phone if I had a h/h with edr bt, well, would be another story but google maps lookup now takes abt. 5 sec (from Palm) would be nice if google supported the DIA screen, not just 'main screen'. all's well -- Voytek -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 15:52:32 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: How to point different versions of FF to different add-on extensions? Hi, I use the mediaconnectivity extension, unfortunately there are now two versions of it - one that works with Firefox up to 3.01Alpha and the other that need to be used with version 3 (non-alpha) and above. I run both version 2.0.0.19 and 3.06 of firefox and each time I update one to the correct version of Mediaconnectivity, the other complains that it is not compatible. This is not a plugin, rather an add-on or extension. Does anyone know where there is a setting to tell FF where to look for these ? Cheers/2 Ed. -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 16:07:01 +1100 (AEDT) From: "John Angelico" Subject: Re: drag and drop url objects like web..? linkbuilder On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 23:08:05 +1100, Peter Moylan wrote: >John Angelico wrote: >> On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 16:26:26 +1000, Mike O'Connor wrote: >> >> Hi Peter, Mike Voytek >> >> > I have a similar complaint to yours about the V3.0.x Firefox >> > appearance, though my equivalent text is Sans Serif style text - >> > which does come up with very black text, but it's so BOLDED, and at >> > a larger point size than with V2.0.x - indeed very ugly. I too >> > would like to know how to have it revert to former behaviour. This >> > larger font also reduces the number of items (with associated text) >> > that one can fit in the Bookmark toolbar, if not using unlabelled >> > icons! >> >> Are you perhaps looking for Options/Content/Fonts & Colours ? Only >> one font/size setting though. >> >> I use Workplace Sans 14 point, but then my eyes aren't what they used >> to be. > >No luck there, I'm afraid. That option only affects the page being >displayed. >(And only if the author hasn't overridden it, which is >becoming rarer. Web authors have absolutely no understanding that one >day their eyes too will reach the point where they can't read their own >web pages ... at which point they might just discover that the whole >point of HTML is that the presentation details are supposed to be >controlled from the reader's end. But I digress.) Hmm, we can force authors to obey us: http://support.mozilla dot com/en-US/kb/Changing+fonts+and+colors#Changing_Font by not letting page fonts override our selection. >My default font is >also a sans serif font, but my Firefox menus and so on have serifs. > I think I have found something for you to check out: http://www.mozilla dot org/unix/customizing.html#usercss and http://www.mozilla dot org/support/thunderbird/edit >By coincidence, your posting answered one of my questions about >Thunderbird. It appeared to me in a different font size from most other >people's plain text. On checking the source, I see that you use the >utf-8 character encoding. From Thunderbird's point of view, that means >it's not English; it goes into the "Other languages" category. Well, well. We finally get to use UTF-8 properly in PMMail 3 and TB doesn't know what to do with it! Welcome to the Wild West of (internet) programming, I guess. :-) >I don't know why Firefox and Thunderbird both insist on basing their >fonts on language rather than on character set. If they did it in terms >of MIME charsets, we'd finally be able to figure out what they mean. Logic? Reason? There's no reason; it's policy - that's all! :-) Best regards John Angelico OS/2 SIG os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or talldad at kepl dot com dot au ___________________ -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 23:02:36 -0700 From: Chuck McKinnis Subject: Re: How to point different versions of FF to different add-on extensions? Ed Durrant wrote: > Hi, > I use the mediaconnectivity extension, unfortunately there are now two > versions of it - one that works with Firefox up to 3.01Alpha and the > other that need to be used with version 3 (non-alpha) and above. > > I run both version 2.0.0.19 and 3.06 of firefox and each time I update > one to the correct version of Mediaconnectivity, the other complains > that it is not compatible. This is not a plugin, rather an add-on or > extension. Does anyone know where there is a setting to tell FF where to > look for these ? > > Cheers/2 > > Ed. > -------------------------------------------------- > > http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === > I think this might work. Remember this statement in CONFIG.SYS? SET MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH=C:\PROGRAMS\MOZ_PLUG I think you can use a feature of RUN! that is normally not used: FIREFOX!LE.EXE L - set LIBPATHSTRICT (use option 'U' to turn it off) E - modify environment using file 'exename!.ENV' (e.g. xyz!.env) FIREFOX!.ENV SET MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH= -- Chuck McKinnis 1449 State Highway 14 N Sandia Park, NM 87047 505-286-3191 http://www.7cities dot net/~mckinnis/ That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. Romans 10:9 -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 7 ==========================** Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 18:11:05 +1100 From: Peter Moylan Subject: Re: drag and drop url objects like web..? linkbuilder John Angelico wrote: > On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 23:08:05 +1100, Peter Moylan wrote: > > My default font is also a sans serif font, but my Firefox menus and > > so on have serifs. > I think I have found something for you to check out: > http://www.mozilla dot org/unix/customizing.html#usercss and > http://www.mozilla dot org/support/thunderbird/edit Many thanks. I've now created a file userChrome.css with the content below. (I'm not sure why all the "not important" tags, but they seem to be recommended.) It's made a significant improvement to the look of Firefox. at namespace url("http://www.mozilla dot org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul"); /* set default namespace to XUL */ /* Set font size and family for dialogs * and other miscellaneous text */ window { font-size: 3mm !important; font-weight: normal !important; font-family: helvetica !important; } /* Make menus big, pretty and readable (like the old SGI look): * menubar isn't used after 12/19 builds, but is needed for NS6; * the rest are for post-12/19 */ menubar, menubutton, menulist, menu, menuitem { font-family: helvetica !important; font-weight: normal !important; font-size: 3mm !important; } -- Peter Moylan peter at pmoylan dot org http://www.pmoylan dot org -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 8 ==========================** Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 18:58:41 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: How to point different versions of FF to different add-on extensions? Chuck McKinnis wrote: > Ed Durrant wrote: >> Hi, >> I use the mediaconnectivity extension, unfortunately there are now >> two versions of it - one that works with Firefox up to 3.01Alpha and >> the other that need to be used with version 3 (non-alpha) and above. >> >> I run both version 2.0.0.19 and 3.06 of firefox and each time I >> update one to the correct version of Mediaconnectivity, the other >> complains that it is not compatible. This is not a plugin, rather an >> add-on or extension. Does anyone know where there is a setting to >> tell FF where to look for these ? >> >> Cheers/2 >> >> Ed. >> -------------------------------------------------- >> >> http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG >=== >> > > I think this might work. Remember this statement in CONFIG.SYS? > SET MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH=C:\PROGRAMS\MOZ_PLUG > I think you can use a feature of RUN! that is normally not used: > FIREFOX!LE.EXE > L - set LIBPATHSTRICT (use option 'U' to turn it off) > E - modify environment using file 'exename!.ENV' (e.g. xyz!.env) > FIREFOX!.ENV > SET MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH= > Hi Chuck, I tried that already by putting it in a cmd file before calling firefox, but as I say, this is not a plugin - it's an extension/add-on, hence it made not difference. It looks as if the settings on version number where mediaconnectivity plugin values are set are shown under about:config - the question is where is this looking to get it's data - it appears to be looking at the same place no matter which version of FF I am using - hence the values carry over from one version to the other. I guess it must be a file in some location off MozillaHome. Cheers/2 Ed. -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 9 ==========================** Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 19:16:19 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: How to point different versions of FF to different add-on extensions? Ed Durrant wrote: > Chuck McKinnis wrote: >> Ed Durrant wrote: >>> Hi, >>> I use the mediaconnectivity extension, unfortunately there are now >>> two versions of it - one that works with Firefox up to 3.01Alpha and >>> the other that need to be used with version 3 (non-alpha) and above. >>> >>> I run both version 2.0.0.19 and 3.06 of firefox and each time I >>> update one to the correct version of Mediaconnectivity, the other >>> complains that it is not compatible. This is not a plugin, rather an >>> add-on or extension. Does anyone know where there is a setting to >>> tell FF where to look for these ? >>> >>> Cheers/2 >>> >>> Ed. >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === >>> >> >> I think this might work. Remember this statement in CONFIG.SYS? >> SET MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH=C:\PROGRAMS\MOZ_PLUG >> I think you can use a feature of RUN! that is normally not used: >> FIREFOX!LE.EXE >> L - set LIBPATHSTRICT (use option 'U' to turn it off) >> E - modify environment using file 'exename!.ENV' (e.g. xyz!.env) >> FIREFOX!.ENV >> SET MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH= >> > Hi Chuck, > > I tried that already by putting it in a cmd file before calling > firefox, but as I say, this is not a plugin - it's an > extension/add-on, hence it made not difference. > > It looks as if the settings on version number where mediaconnectivity > plugin values are set are shown under about:config - the question is > where is this looking to get it's data - it appears to be looking at > the same place no matter which version of FF I am using - hence the > values carry over from one version to the other. I guess it must be a > file in some location off MozillaHome. > > Cheers/2 > > Ed. > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === > Yes ! that was it - I copied the Mozilla "Default" folder, called it "Default3" and then took the "e" option you suggested Chuck and added a firefox!.env file with the new location in it: SET MOZILLA_HOME=I:\HOME\DEFAULT3 No the two different version of Firefox can use different versions of the extensions. Thanks Cheers/2 Ed -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 10 ==========================** Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 19:18:56 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: How to point different versions of FF to different add-on extensions? Ed Durrant wrote: > Ed Durrant wrote: >> Chuck McKinnis wrote: >>> Ed Durrant wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> I use the mediaconnectivity extension, unfortunately there are now >>>> two versions of it - one that works with Firefox up to 3.01Alpha >>>> and the other that need to be used with version 3 (non-alpha) and >>>> above. >>>> >>>> I run both version 2.0.0.19 and 3.06 of firefox and each time I >>>> update one to the correct version of Mediaconnectivity, the other >>>> complains that it is not compatible. This is not a plugin, rather >>>> an add-on or extension. Does anyone know where there is a setting >>>> to tell FF where to look for these ? >>>> >>>> Cheers/2 >>>> >>>> Ed. >>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG >=== >>>> >>> >>> I think this might work. Remember this statement in CONFIG.SYS? >>> SET MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH=C:\PROGRAMS\MOZ_PLUG >>> I think you can use a feature of RUN! that is normally not used: >>> FIREFOX!LE.EXE >>> L - set LIBPATHSTRICT (use option 'U' to turn it off) >>> E - modify environment using file 'exename!.ENV' (e.g. xyz!.env) >>> FIREFOX!.ENV >>> SET MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH= >>> >> Hi Chuck, >> >> I tried that already by putting it in a cmd file before calling >> firefox, but as I say, this is not a plugin - it's an >> extension/add-on, hence it made not difference. >> >> It looks as if the settings on version number where mediaconnectivity >> plugin values are set are shown under about:config - the question is >> where is this looking to get it's data - it appears to be looking at >> the same place no matter which version of FF I am using - hence the >> values carry over from one version to the other. I guess it must be a >> file in some location off MozillaHome. >> >> Cheers/2 >> >> Ed. >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> >> http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG >=== >> > Yes ! that was it - I copied the Mozilla "Default" folder, called it > "Default3" and then took the "e" option you suggested Chuck and added > a firefox!.env file with the new location in it: > SET MOZILLA_HOME=I:\HOME\DEFAULT3 > > No the two different version of Firefox can use different versions of > the extensions. > > Thanks > > Cheers/2 > Ed > -------------------------------------------------- > > http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === > That's sounds almost Scottish ! it should have read: Now the two different versions of Firefox can use different versions of the extensions. -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 11 ==========================** Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 18:21:25 +1000 From: Mike O'Connor Subject: Re: How to point different versions of FF to different add-on extensions? Ed Durrant wrote: > It looks as if the settings on version number where mediaconnectivity > plugin values are set are shown under about:config - the question is > where is this looking to get it's data - it appears to be looking at > the same place no matter which version of FF I am using - hence the > values carry over from one version to the other. I guess it must be a > file in some location off MozillaHome. > > Cheers/2 > > Ed. Hi Ed, Here the "mediaplayerconnectivity" is only referenced in the following files: 2009/02/14 17:58:26 1,771,133 O:\home\default\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\b14b63ej.default\history.dat 2009/02/14 17:52:52 1,040,384 O:\home\default\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\b14b63ej.default\places.sqlite 2008/06/22 21:26:12 683,740 O:\home\default\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\b14b63ej.default\extensions\{84b24861-62f6-364b-eba5-2e5e2061d7e6}\chrome\mediaplayerconnectivity.jar 2009/02/13 18:10:40 130,992 O:\home\default\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\b14b63ej.default\downloads.rdf 2009/02/13 16:58:32 33,792 O:\home\default\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\b14b63ej.default\downloads.sqlite 2009/02/14 17:58:44 18,466 O:\home\default\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\b14b63ej.default\localstore.rdf 2009/02/14 17:55:00 12,101 O:\home\default\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\b14b63ej.default\extensions.rdf 2009/02/14 17:58:44 7,397 O:\home\default\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\b14b63ej.default\prefs.js 2008/06/22 21:22:52 3,814 O:\home\default\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\b14b63ej.default\extensions\{84b24861-62f6-364b-eba5-2e5e2061d7e6}\chrome.manifest 2008/06/23 19:59:02 3,057 O:\home\default\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\b14b63ej.default\extensions\{84b24861-62f6-364b-eba5-2e5e2061d7e6}\install.rdf HTH Regards, Mike -- Failed the exam for -------------------- MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert -------------------- Personal replies to any of : mikeoc (at) internode (dot) on (dot) net mikeoc (at) austarnet (dot) com (dot) au majilok (at) gmail (dot) com [Please ZIP any attachments, other than GIF/JPG or plain-text] If you are missing a response from me - check Tweed Heads WX status at: http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR663.loop.shtml#skip -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 12 ==========================** Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 22:11:17 +1100 (AEDT) From: "John Angelico" Subject: Re: drag and drop url objects like web..? linkbuilder On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 18:11:05 +1100, Peter Moylan wrote: > >Many thanks. I've now created a file userChrome.css with the content >below. (I'm not sure why all the "not important" tags, but they seem to >be recommended.) It's made a significant improvement to the look of Firefox. Ah, excellent! I am happy with the look of the Add-on Themes I have selected, so I haven't had to worry about that level of tinkering. Best regards John Angelico OS/2 SIG os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or talldad at kepl dot com dot au ___________________ -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG ===