From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 00:02:34 EST-10EDT,10,1,0,7200,4,1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1822 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Tuesday 23 June 2009 Number 1822 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 Re: [FYI: Imminent closure of SORBS...] : Ian Manners" 2 Re: Open Office v3.1.0 : Peter Moylan 3 Re: Open Office v3.1.0 : Voytek Eymont" 4 Re: Open Office v3.1.0 : Ian Manners" 5 Re: Open Office v3.1.0 : Voytek Eymont" 6 Java, Palm, DateBk and Pimlical : Voytek Eymont" 7 $12 injet anyone ? : Voytek Eymont" 8 ot: Mac xperts : Voytek Eymont" 9 Re: Open Office v3.1.0 : Ian Manners" 10 Re: Open Office v3.1.0 : Voytek Eymont" 11 Re: Open Office v3.1.0 : Ian Manners" 12 Re: Open Office v3.1.0 : Ed Durrant 13 Re: Open Office v3.1.0 : Ed Durrant 14 Re: Open Office v3.1.0 : Ed Durrant 15 Re: Open Office v3.1.0 : Ed Durrant 16 Re: Open Office v3.1.0 : Kris Steenhaut 17 Re: USB to Parallel : Alan Duval 18 Re: USB to Parallel : Ed Durrant 19 Re: Open Office v3.1.0 : Ed Durrant 20 Re: USB to Parallel : Alan Duval 21 Re: Open Office v3.1.0 : Alan Duval 22 Re: USB to Parallel : Mike O'Connor 23 Re: USB to Parallel : Ed Durrant 24 Re: Open Office v3.1.0 : Ed Durrant 25 Re: USB to Parallel : Michael/Gail Peters" 26 Re: USB to Parallel : Alan Duval **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 00:21:02 +1000 (EST) From: "Ian Manners" Subject: Re: [FYI: Imminent closure of SORBS...] I got that on the SORB's lists as well :-( Cheers Ian Manners http://www.os2site dot com/ -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 02:21:05 +1000 From: Peter Moylan Subject: Re: Open Office v3.1.0 Ian Manners wrote: > Go to openoffice download and tell me what you see > > > > Now try to get it :-) > I suspect someone has done a copy-and-paste from some earlier announcement. Let's remember that OpenOffice was previously known as StarOffice - and that's still reflected in some file names - and that originally it was available ONLY for OS/2. The Linux and Windows versions came well after the OS/2 version. As it happens, I do have version 3.1 on my computer, but only because I've paid for an OO support agreement. At least it still is available, even if we have to pay for it. On the negative side, version 3.1 crashes on some documents that I wrote with version 2.4. I suspect that it's because I write documents with lots of equations, and the equation editor has always been a weak point of OO. It's far superior, in terms of ease of use, to Microsoft's equation editor; but it also has a tendency to crash. I have to say that OO is exceptionally good at producing technically complicated HTML documents. See, for example, my article http://www.pmoylan dot org/pages/articles/probability/Probability.html which contains both equations and charts from spreadsheets. -- Peter Moylan peter at pmoylan dot org http://www.pmoylan dot org -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 06:54:55 +1000 (EST) From: "Voytek Eymont" Subject: Re: Open Office v3.1.0 > Ian Manners wrote: > >> Go to openoffice download and tell me what you see >> >> >> I see a web page ? >> Now try to get it :-) get what ? sorry, what is it that I'm supposed to see/notice and download ? I'm stumped... -- Voytek -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:41:45 +1000 (EST) From: "Ian Manners" Subject: Re: Open Office v3.1.0 Hi Voytek, >>> >I see a web page ? >>> Now try to get it :-) >get what ? Enable javascript in your browser. >sorry, what is it that I'm supposed to see/notice and download ? I'm >stumped... A link to the OS/2 version of OpenOffice v3.1.0 Cheers Ian Manners http://www.os2site dot com/ -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:53:26 +1000 (EST) From: "Voytek Eymont" Subject: Re: Open Office v3.1.0 > Hi Voytek, > > >>>> >>>> >> I see a web page ? >> >>>> Now try to get it :-) >>>> >> get what ? > > Enable javascript in your browser. it's enabled > > >> sorry, what is it that I'm supposed to see/notice and download ? I'm >> stumped... > > A link to the OS/2 version of OpenOffice v3.1.0 I see this:? =================== Download OpenOffice dot org Click to start downloading OpenOffice dot org 3.1.0 for Windows (US English) (Java runtime, JRE, included for all OS versions except Linux Deb and Mac) Get more platforms and languages, non-JRE versions, Order CD-ROM or Peer-to-peer downloads Get OpenOffice dot org Extensions Extend your OpenOffice dot org! Choose from a large and growing library of extensions. Get Release candidates and Snapshot builds Please help us test the latest version in development. Share OpenOffice dot org CD-ROMs with colleagues and friends; burn them yourself! (We've prepared some CD-ROM images with additional content.) ==================== -- Voytek -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:03:11 +1000 (EST) From: "Voytek Eymont" Subject: Java, Palm, DateBk and Pimlical just a curiosity of no significance: I use an app called DateBk on my Palm, a very fine calendar app; the developer of DateBk has created a 'Desktop for Palm' app called Pimlical, which is essentially a high end PIM that can also be used as a Desktop for Palm (replacement for Palm provided app) the new app, Pimlical, is a Java app, as it eventually meant to be a cross platform app for just about any device. it requires the latest Java, and, currently only ships for windoze well, using the various recipes that were posted here, I've got Pimlical running on my OS/2 desktop, displaying my Palm data well, kinda running, it throws up some erros on the way up, and, some more on the way down. but, it does start up like I said, just a curiosity of no significance -- Voytek -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG **= Email 7 ==========================** Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:05:01 +1000 (EST) From: "Voytek Eymont" Subject: $12 injet anyone ? ___________________ Lexmark Z617 Printer DEAL We have listed a quantity of Lexmark Z617 Printers for your approval. NEW Retail Packed NO Ink Cartridges Quantity: 5,000 units Price: USD$12.50 FOB Asia All offers will be seriously considered. ___________________ -- Voytek -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG **= Email 8 ==========================** Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:08:14 +1000 (EST) From: "Voytek Eymont" Subject: ot: Mac xperts any Maxperts here ? how to disable (and, keep disabled) bluetooth on a Mac ? if I disable it as admin user, normal user can re-enable -- Voytek -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG **= Email 9 ==========================** Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:38:06 +1000 (EST) From: "Ian Manners" Subject: Re: Open Office v3.1.0 Hi Voytek, >I see this:? >=================== >Click to start downloading OpenOffice dot org 3.1.0 for Windows (US English) >(Java runtime, JRE, included for all OS versions except Linux Deb and Mac) >==================== ok, your doing it from Windows or you have changed your browser UA to a windows one :-) Cheers Ian Manners http://www.os2site dot com/ -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG **= Email 10 ==========================** Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:47:11 +1000 (EST) From: "Voytek Eymont" Subject: Re: Open Office v3.1.0 > ok, your doing it from Windows or you have changed your browser UA to a > windows one :-) thanks, Ian, got it so what version is the OS/2 Open Office ? does it require the win run time thing? -- Voytek -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG **= Email 11 ==========================** Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 11:15:27 +1000 (EST) From: "Ian Manners" Subject: Re: Open Office v3.1.0 Hi Voytek, >so what version is the OS/2 Open Office ? >does it require the win run time thing? Only available from Mensys at http://os2.mensys.nl/indexuk.html if you purchase the agreement for it. 17/01/09 1:05 154 0 checksums.md5 17/01/09 0:30 743150 0 libxml2.dll 16/01/09 15:29 61846 0 OOo310b-base.wpi 17/01/09 1:02 98879575 0 OOo310b-bin.wpi 16/01/09 15:29 78970824 0 OOo310b-common.wpi 16/01/09 16:40 1251388 0 warpin-1-0-18.EXE I havent installed the 3.1.0 beta yet so only assume that it requires innowin. Do a search on it as the info should be in a voice news item somewere. Cheers Ian Manners http://www.os2site dot com/ -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG **= Email 12 ==========================** Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:17:02 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Open Office v3.1.0 Ian Manners wrote: > Go to openoffice download and tell me what you see > > > > Now try to get it :-) > > Cheers > Ian Manners > http://www.os2site dot com/ > > -------------------------------------------------- > > http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG > Interesting - OOo v 3.10 for OS/2 on the first page ! But then it can't find it to download it ... Is this a "spoof" first page ?? -- Cheers/2 Ed Checkout my new (WIP) eComStation Australia Podcast - search for eComStation at iTunes or Podcastblaster dot com or add the RSS feed http://feeds2.feedburner dot com/eComStationAustralia to Thunderbird. Don't miss the tenth Warpstock Europe at Stralsund 12-15 November 2009 check out - http://www.warpstock.eu for details. -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 13 ==========================** Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:20:49 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Open Office v3.1.0 Ian Manners wrote: > Go to openoffice download and tell me what you see > > > > Now try to get it :-) > > Cheers > Ian Manners > http://www.os2site dot com/ > > -------------------------------------------------- > > http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG > opening "I want to download OpenOffice dot org" from the normal first page http://www.openoffice dot org/ also says download v 3.10 for OS/2 !! as if OS/2 (instead of Windows) is now the default - find Linux, BEOS. MAC OSX and other versions here ..... -- Cheers/2 Ed Checkout my new (WIP) eComStation Australia Podcast - search for eComStation at iTunes or Podcastblaster dot com or add the RSS feed http://feeds2.feedburner dot com/eComStationAustralia to Thunderbird. Don't miss the tenth Warpstock Europe at Stralsund 12-15 November 2009 check out - http://www.warpstock.eu for details. -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 14 ==========================** Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:27:15 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Open Office v3.1.0 Ed Durrant wrote: > Ian Manners wrote: >> Go to openoffice download and tell me what you see >> >> >> >> Now try to get it :-) >> >> Cheers >> Ian Manners >> http://www.os2site dot com/ >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> >> http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG > > opening "I want to download OpenOffice dot org" from the normal first page > http://www.openoffice dot org/ also says download v 3.10 for OS/2 !! as if > OS/2 (instead of Windows) is now the default - find Linux, BEOS. MAC > OSX and other versions here ..... > AHA! - I see what is happening - the website is inquiring against the browser that you are running and then puts in the operating system name in the text - if I go to this site from a Windoze box it says OOo v 3.10 for Windows. -- Cheers/2 Ed Checkout my new (WIP) eComStation Australia Podcast - search for eComStation at iTunes or Podcastblaster dot com or add the RSS feed http://feeds2.feedburner dot com/eComStationAustralia to Thunderbird. Don't miss the tenth Warpstock Europe at Stralsund 12-15 November 2009 check out - http://www.warpstock.eu for details. -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 15 ==========================** Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:52:49 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Open Office v3.1.0 Ian Manners wrote: > Hi Voytek, > > >> so what version is the OS/2 Open Office ? >> does it require the win run time thing? >> > > Only available from Mensys at http://os2.mensys.nl/indexuk.html > if you purchase the agreement for it. > > 17/01/09 1:05 154 0 checksums.md5 > 17/01/09 0:30 743150 0 libxml2.dll > 16/01/09 15:29 61846 0 OOo310b-base.wpi > 17/01/09 1:02 98879575 0 OOo310b-bin.wpi > 16/01/09 15:29 78970824 0 OOo310b-common.wpi > 16/01/09 16:40 1251388 0 warpin-1-0-18.EXE > > I havent installed the 3.1.0 beta yet so only assume that > it requires innowin. Do a search on it as the info should be > in a voice news item somewere. > > Cheers > Ian Manners > http://www.os2site dot com/ > > -------------------------------------------------- > > http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG > No this is compiled OS/2 code - it doesn't use InnoWin. -- Cheers/2 Ed Checkout my new (WIP) eComStation Australia Podcast - search for eComStation at iTunes or Podcastblaster dot com or add the RSS feed http://feeds2.feedburner dot com/eComStationAustralia to Thunderbird. Don't miss the tenth Warpstock Europe at Stralsund 12-15 November 2009 check out - http://www.warpstock.eu for details. -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 16 ==========================** Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:02:38 +0200 From: Kris Steenhaut Subject: Re: Open Office v3.1.0 Ed Durrant ha scritto: > opening "I want to download OpenOffice dot org" from the normal first page > http://www.openoffice dot org/ also says download v 3.10 for OS/2 !! as if > OS/2 (instead of Windows) is now the default - find Linux, BEOS. MAC > OSX and other versions here ..... > Yes, but immediately after you'll get the message: *** The download you have chosen could not be initiated automatically. Please visit the download overview . **** So, what are we talking about? -- Groeten uit Gent, Kris -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 17 ==========================** Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:10:12 +1100 From: Alan Duval Subject: Re: USB to Parallel Ed Durrant wrote: > Alan Duval wrote: >> Hi, >> >> If I use a USB to Parallel cable to connect my Parallel port Printer, >> what driver would I need? >> >> Regards, >> >> Alan Duval >> -------------------------------------------------- >> >> http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG >=== >> > You will need the driver for the printer, plus you will need to have > USB Printing support installed and enabled. Assuming the cable itself > is a pure hardware device, you are simply making your printer look > like a USB connected printer. > > so DEVICE=G:\OS2\BOOT\USBPRT.SYS > in config.sys and start USBMON with a parameter of USBPRT in the > startup folder or startup.cmd > > and you should be fine ..... I hope. Still won't print. I have these lines in my config.sys relating to USB apart from 2 lines associated with mouse and keyboard: DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\USBPRT.SYS BASEDEV=USBEHCD.SYS BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS BASEDEV=USBD.SYS BASEDEV=USBHID.SYS BASEDEV=USBMSD.ADD /REMOVABLES:8 /FLOPPIES:1 In my startup folder I have a folder for Removable Device Monitor V1.2 but no folder for USBMON. I assume they are similar. In the properties window of this program are: Path and File Name: C:\ECS\BOOT\USBMSDD.EXE Working Directory: C:\ECS\BOOT I have added the parameter USBPRT Also made a USB port in the printer dialog and installed my printer to this port. What else can I do? Does it matter which USB port I plug into? Regards, Alan -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 18 ==========================** Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:34:57 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: USB to Parallel Alan Duval wrote: > Ed Durrant wrote: >> Alan Duval wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> If I use a USB to Parallel cable to connect my Parallel port >>> Printer, what driver would I need? >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Alan Duval >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === >>> >> You will need the driver for the printer, plus you will need to have >> USB Printing support installed and enabled. Assuming the cable itself >> is a pure hardware device, you are simply making your printer look >> like a USB connected printer. >> >> so DEVICE=G:\OS2\BOOT\USBPRT.SYS >> in config.sys and start USBMON with a parameter of USBPRT in the >> startup folder or startup.cmd >> >> and you should be fine ..... I hope. > Still won't print. > I have these lines in my config.sys relating to USB apart from 2 lines > associated with mouse and keyboard: > > DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\USBPRT.SYS > BASEDEV=USBEHCD.SYS > BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS > BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS > BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS > BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS > BASEDEV=USBD.SYS > BASEDEV=USBHID.SYS > BASEDEV=USBMSD.ADD /REMOVABLES:8 /FLOPPIES:1 > > In my startup folder I have a folder for Removable Device Monitor V1.2 > but no folder for USBMON. I assume they are similar. > In the properties window of this program are: > Path and File Name: C:\ECS\BOOT\USBMSDD.EXE > Working Directory: C:\ECS\BOOT > > I have added the parameter USBPRT > > Also made a USB port in the printer dialog and installed my printer to > this port. > > What else can I do? Does it matter which USB port I plug into? > > Regards, > > Alan Is the cable a pure hardware device ? What does the documentation with it say - if it says to install a windows driver, then it's not a pure hardware device and it wont work with anything apart from Windoze. -- Cheers/2 Ed Checkout my new (WIP) eComStation Australia Podcast - search for eComStation at iTunes or Podcastblaster dot com or add the RSS feed http://feeds2.feedburner dot com/eComStationAustralia to Thunderbird. Don't miss the tenth Warpstock Europe at Stralsund 12-15 November 2009 check out - http://www.warpstock.eu for details. -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 19 ==========================** Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:36:29 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Open Office v3.1.0 Kris Steenhaut wrote: > Ed Durrant ha scritto: >> opening "I want to download OpenOffice dot org" from the normal first >> page http://www.openoffice dot org/ also says download v 3.10 for OS/2 !! >> as if OS/2 (instead of Windows) is now the default - find Linux, >> BEOS. MAC OSX and other versions here ..... >> > Yes, but immediately after you'll get the message: > > *** > The download you have chosen could not be initiated automatically. > Please visit the download overview > . > **** > > So, what are we talking about? > And it's not in that list! so what is happening is that the webpage is asking the firefox browser, what OS is running and then inserts that in the text on the screen. -- Cheers/2 Ed Checkout my new (WIP) eComStation Australia Podcast - search for eComStation at iTunes or Podcastblaster dot com or add the RSS feed http://feeds2.feedburner dot com/eComStationAustralia to Thunderbird. Don't miss the tenth Warpstock Europe at Stralsund 12-15 November 2009 check out - http://www.warpstock.eu for details. -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 20 ==========================** Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:04:16 +1100 From: Alan Duval Subject: Re: USB to Parallel Ed Durrant wrote: > Alan Duval wrote: >> Ed Durrant wrote: >>> Alan Duval wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> If I use a USB to Parallel cable to connect my Parallel port >>>> Printer, what driver would I need? >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Alan Duval >>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG >=== >>>> >>> You will need the driver for the printer, plus you will need to have >>> USB Printing support installed and enabled. Assuming the cable >>> itself is a pure hardware device, you are simply making your printer >>> look like a USB connected printer. >>> >>> so DEVICE=G:\OS2\BOOT\USBPRT.SYS >>> in config.sys and start USBMON with a parameter of USBPRT in the >>> startup folder or startup.cmd >>> >>> and you should be fine ..... I hope. >> Still won't print. >> I have these lines in my config.sys relating to USB apart from 2 >> lines associated with mouse and keyboard: >> >> DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\USBPRT.SYS >> BASEDEV=USBEHCD.SYS >> BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS >> BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS >> BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS >> BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS >> BASEDEV=USBD.SYS >> BASEDEV=USBHID.SYS >> BASEDEV=USBMSD.ADD /REMOVABLES:8 /FLOPPIES:1 >> >> In my startup folder I have a folder for Removable Device Monitor >> V1.2 but no folder for USBMON. I assume they are similar. >> In the properties window of this program are: >> Path and File Name: C:\ECS\BOOT\USBMSDD.EXE >> Working Directory: C:\ECS\BOOT >> >> I have added the parameter USBPRT >> >> Also made a USB port in the printer dialog and installed my printer >> to this port. >> >> What else can I do? Does it matter which USB port I plug into? >> >> Regards, >> >> Alan > Is the cable a pure hardware device ? What does the documentation with > it say - if it says to install a windows driver, then it's not a pure > hardware device and it wont work with anything apart from Windoze. > It's a while since I bought it and I don't think it had any documentation with it. I'm sure I used it on one of my previous ECS installations on an ASUS M3A box and was surprised that it worked. However I've shelved that system as I couldn't configure ACPI & SMP on it. Just to check, I resurrected that box and did all the above but couldn't access the printer so I don't know what else I did that was different. Regards, Alan -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 21 ==========================** Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:15:45 +1100 From: Alan Duval Subject: Re: Open Office v3.1.0 Hi, I've just downloaded Open Office v3.1.0 from the Mensys site and installed it. I was disappointed with it, as it's slower to load than OOo2.4 and crashes if I try to open *.sdw files from StarOffice 5.1. In fact I tend to use StarOffice more than OpenOffice as it's quicker loading and does a good job of reading *.doc files. Each new version of OOo seems to be getting slower as the version prior to OOo2.4 was quicker. Lotus Smartsuite is quickest of all but is not good at reading *.doc files. Regards, Alan -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 22 ==========================** Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:29:25 +1000 From: Mike O'Connor Subject: Re: USB to Parallel Alan Duval wrote: > Ed Durrant wrote: >> Alan Duval wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> If I use a USB to Parallel cable to connect my Parallel port >>> Printer, what driver would I need? >> You will need the driver for the printer, plus you will need to have >> USB Printing support installed and enabled. Assuming the cable itself >> is a pure hardware device, you are simply making your printer look >> like a USB connected printer. >> >> so DEVICE=G:\OS2\BOOT\USBPRT.SYS >> in config.sys and start USBMON with a parameter of USBPRT in the >> startup folder or startup.cmd >> >> and you should be fine ..... I hope. > Still won't print. > I have these lines in my config.sys relating to USB apart from 2 lines > associated with mouse and keyboard: > > DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\USBPRT.SYS > BASEDEV=USBEHCD.SYS > BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS > BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS > BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS > BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS > BASEDEV=USBD.SYS > BASEDEV=USBHID.SYS > BASEDEV=USBMSD.ADD /REMOVABLES:8 /FLOPPIES:1 > > In my startup folder I have a folder for Removable Device Monitor V1.2 > but no folder for USBMON. I assume they are similar. they're program objects Alan, not folders! > In the properties window of this program are: > Path and File Name: C:\ECS\BOOT\USBMSDD.EXE > Working Directory: C:\ECS\BOOT > > I have added the parameter USBPRT > > Also made a USB port in the printer dialog and installed my printer to > this port. > > What else can I do? Does it matter which USB port I plug into? > > Regards, > > Alan Hi Alan, That's the USB M(ass)S(storage)D(Device) monitor you incorrectly added the USBPRT parameter to! That parameter is what goes on a program object referencing ?:\os2\usbmon.exe My systems here have two files called usbmon.exe as follows: OS/2 Ctrl+Esc = Window List Type HELP = help Tue 23/06/2009 20:02:47.13 AEST [512MB RAM J:\Desktop]dir ..\usbmon.exe /s The volume label in drive J is ECSV20RC4-J. The Volume Serial Number is 0963:D5C4. Directory of J:\OS2 25/08/05 11:28 19,477 0 a--- usbmon.exe 1 file(s) 19,477 bytes used Directory of J:\OS2\BOOT 10/09/04 15:50 51,233 342 a--- USBMON.EXE 1 file(s) 51,233 bytes used Total files listed: 2 file(s) 70,710 bytes used 95,145,984 bytes free Tue 23/06/2009 20:03:07.42 AEST [512MB RAM J:\Desktop] The first of those is the USB printer monitor, the other in os2\boot is related to LVM (HDD and MSD), and in fact is superseded by ?:\ECS\BOOT\USBMSDD.EXE - the one you already have in the Startup Folder. Regards, Mike -- Failed the exam for -------------------- MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert -------------------- Personal replies to any of : mikeoc (at) internode (dot) on (dot) net mikeoc (at) austarnet (dot) com (dot) au majilok (at) gmail (dot) com [Please ZIP any attachments, other than GIF/JPG or plain-text] If you are missing a response from me - check Tweed Heads WX status at: http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR663.loop.shtml#skip -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 23 ==========================** Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:33:48 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: USB to Parallel Alan Duval wrote: > Ed Durrant wrote: >> Alan Duval wrote: >>> Ed Durrant wrote: >>>> Alan Duval wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> If I use a USB to Parallel cable to connect my Parallel port >>>>> Printer, what driver would I need? >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Alan Duval >>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG >>=== >>>>> >>>> You will need the driver for the printer, plus you will need to >>>> have USB Printing support installed and enabled. Assuming the cable >>>> itself is a pure hardware device, you are simply making your >>>> printer look like a USB connected printer. >>>> >>>> so DEVICE=G:\OS2\BOOT\USBPRT.SYS >>>> in config.sys and start USBMON with a parameter of USBPRT in the >>>> startup folder or startup.cmd >>>> >>>> and you should be fine ..... I hope. >>> Still won't print. >>> I have these lines in my config.sys relating to USB apart from 2 >>> lines associated with mouse and keyboard: >>> >>> DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\USBPRT.SYS >>> BASEDEV=USBEHCD.SYS >>> BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS >>> BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS >>> BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS >>> BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS >>> BASEDEV=USBD.SYS >>> BASEDEV=USBHID.SYS >>> BASEDEV=USBMSD.ADD /REMOVABLES:8 /FLOPPIES:1 >>> >>> In my startup folder I have a folder for Removable Device Monitor >>> V1.2 but no folder for USBMON. I assume they are similar. >>> In the properties window of this program are: >>> Path and File Name: C:\ECS\BOOT\USBMSDD.EXE >>> Working Directory: C:\ECS\BOOT >>> >>> I have added the parameter USBPRT >>> >>> Also made a USB port in the printer dialog and installed my printer >>> to this port. >>> >>> What else can I do? Does it matter which USB port I plug into? >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Alan >> Is the cable a pure hardware device ? What does the documentation >> with it say - if it says to install a windows driver, then it's not a >> pure hardware device and it wont work with anything apart from Windoze. >> > It's a while since I bought it and I don't think it had any > documentation with it. I'm sure I used it on one of my previous ECS > installations on an ASUS M3A box and was surprised that it worked. > However I've shelved that system as I couldn't configure ACPI & SMP on > it. Just to check, I resurrected that box and did all the above but > couldn't access the printer so I don't know what else I did that was > different. > > Regards, > > Alan > OK, if it worked before with eCS it must be a pure hardware device, so that's good. When you go into install printer / create printer, is a USB Port shown with the name of your printer (or perhaps the printer cable) under it ? It'll be blue USB letters across the top, then the plug symbol and then something (not just USB) underneath it. If you don't have this, go to \ecs\system\usbdock and run usbdock - can it see the device ? If not you have a physical USB connectivity problem. If it does see something (it'll give a vendor and model code) - then we are a step closer. USB removable device monitor is the program that pops up the drive X: has been attached when you plug in a USB memory key - it is not the printer monitor that you need to run. USBMON should be in either \OS2 or \OS2\BOOT directory, if it's not in either of those it suggests to me that because of how you installed this system, you did not include usb printing support and you'll need to install usb printer support. I'm not sure how you do this under eCS - logically it'd be through selective install but given that eCS has it's own install procedures, the OS/2 selective install may not work. the other option would have been to download the USB Printing package from Software Choice, but that's closed, so perhaps from eComstation dot com or os2site dot com ? -- Cheers/2 Ed Checkout my new (WIP) eComStation Australia Podcast - search for eComStation at iTunes or Podcastblaster dot com or add the RSS feed http://feeds2.feedburner dot com/eComStationAustralia to Thunderbird. Don't miss the tenth Warpstock Europe at Stralsund 12-15 November 2009 check out - http://www.warpstock.eu for details. -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 24 ==========================** Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:35:29 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Open Office v3.1.0 Alan Duval wrote: > > Hi, > > I've just downloaded Open Office v3.1.0 from the Mensys site and > installed it. I was disappointed with it, as it's slower to load than > OOo2.4 and crashes if I try to open *.sdw files from StarOffice 5.1. > In fact I tend to use StarOffice more than OpenOffice as it's quicker > loading and does a good job of reading *.doc files. Each new version > of OOo seems to be getting slower as the version prior to OOo2.4 was > quicker. > Lotus Smartsuite is quickest of all but is not good at reading *.doc > files. > > Regards, > > Alan > -------------------------------------------------- > > http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === > I'm pretty sure the OOo/2 v 3.1 is still beta code, so a release version might be quicker. -- Cheers/2 Ed Checkout my new (WIP) eComStation Australia Podcast - search for eComStation at iTunes or Podcastblaster dot com or add the RSS feed http://feeds2.feedburner dot com/eComStationAustralia to Thunderbird. Don't miss the tenth Warpstock Europe at Stralsund 12-15 November 2009 check out - http://www.warpstock.eu for details. -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 25 ==========================** Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:51:06 +1000 From: "Michael/Gail Peters" Subject: Re: USB to Parallel Alan, I have already read Ed's response and I fear he is right. I have a similar problem. My OS/2 and XP boxes work off an old switch box with a serial port for the mouse. My old ball mouse is giving me the creeps having to clean it all the time; so I thought I would get around this with a serial to USB adapter on the switch box. When investigating them ( adapters) I found they had only windows drivers. Things no longer work the way serial/ps2 adapters do ... With regds., Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Duval" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 4:10 PM Subject: Re: USB to Parallel > Ed Durrant wrote: >> Alan Duval wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> If I use a USB to Parallel cable to connect my Parallel port Printer, >>> what driver would I need? >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Alan Duval >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === >>> >> You will need the driver for the printer, plus you will need to have USB >> Printing support installed and enabled. Assuming the cable itself is a >> pure hardware device, you are simply making your printer look like a USB >> connected printer. >> >> so DEVICE=G:\OS2\BOOT\USBPRT.SYS >> in config.sys and start USBMON with a parameter of USBPRT in the startup >> folder or startup.cmd >> >> and you should be fine ..... I hope. > Still won't print. > I have these lines in my config.sys relating to USB apart from 2 lines > associated with mouse and keyboard: > > DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\USBPRT.SYS > BASEDEV=USBEHCD.SYS > BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS > BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS > BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS > BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS > BASEDEV=USBD.SYS > BASEDEV=USBHID.SYS > BASEDEV=USBMSD.ADD /REMOVABLES:8 /FLOPPIES:1 > > In my startup folder I have a folder for Removable Device Monitor V1.2 but > no folder for USBMON. I assume they are similar. > In the properties window of this program are: > Path and File Name: C:\ECS\BOOT\USBMSDD.EXE > Working Directory: C:\ECS\BOOT > > I have added the parameter USBPRT > > Also made a USB port in the printer dialog and installed my printer to > this port. > > What else can I do? Does it matter which USB port I plug into? > > Regards, > > Alan > -------------------------------------------------- > > http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 26 ==========================** Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:27:35 +1100 From: Alan Duval Subject: Re: USB to Parallel Ed Durrant wrote: > Alan Duval wrote: >> Ed Durrant wrote: >>> Alan Duval wrote: >>>> Ed Durrant wrote: >>>>> Alan Duval wrote: >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> If I use a USB to Parallel cable to connect my Parallel port >>>>>> Printer, what driver would I need? >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Alan Duval >>>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG >>>=== >>>>>> >>>>> You will need the driver for the printer, plus you will need to >>>>> have USB Printing support installed and enabled. Assuming the >>>>> cable itself is a pure hardware device, you are simply making your >>>>> printer look like a USB connected printer. >>>>> >>>>> so DEVICE=G:\OS2\BOOT\USBPRT.SYS >>>>> in config.sys and start USBMON with a parameter of USBPRT in the >>>>> startup folder or startup.cmd >>>>> >>>>> and you should be fine ..... I hope. >>>> Still won't print. >>>> I have these lines in my config.sys relating to USB apart from 2 >>>> lines associated with mouse and keyboard: >>>> >>>> DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\USBPRT.SYS >>>> BASEDEV=USBEHCD.SYS >>>> BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS >>>> BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS >>>> BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS >>>> BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS >>>> BASEDEV=USBD.SYS >>>> BASEDEV=USBHID.SYS >>>> BASEDEV=USBMSD.ADD /REMOVABLES:8 /FLOPPIES:1 >>>> >>>> In my startup folder I have a folder for Removable Device Monitor >>>> V1.2 but no folder for USBMON. I assume they are similar. >>>> In the properties window of this program are: >>>> Path and File Name: C:\ECS\BOOT\USBMSDD.EXE >>>> Working Directory: C:\ECS\BOOT >>>> >>>> I have added the parameter USBPRT >>>> >>>> Also made a USB port in the printer dialog and installed my printer >>>> to this port. >>>> >>>> What else can I do? Does it matter which USB port I plug into? >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Alan >>> Is the cable a pure hardware device ? What does the documentation >>> with it say - if it says to install a windows driver, then it's not >>> a pure hardware device and it wont work with anything apart from >>> Windoze. >>> >> It's a while since I bought it and I don't think it had any >> documentation with it. I'm sure I used it on one of my previous ECS >> installations on an ASUS M3A box and was surprised that it worked. >> However I've shelved that system as I couldn't configure ACPI & SMP >> on it. Just to check, I resurrected that box and did all the above >> but couldn't access the printer so I don't know what else I did that >> was different. >> >> Regards, >> >> Alan >> > OK, if it worked before with eCS it must be a pure hardware device, so > that's good. > > When you go into install printer / create printer, is a USB Port shown > with the name of your printer (or perhaps the printer cable) under it > ? It'll be blue USB letters across the top, then the plug symbol and > then something (not just USB) underneath it. > It has blue USB letters across the top, then the plug symbol and underneath is the words Prolific_IEEE_1284_Cont_1 > If you don't have this, go to \ecs\system\usbdock and run usbdock - > can it see the device ? If not you have a physical USB connectivity > problem. > > If it does see something (it'll give a vendor and model code) - then > we are a step closer. > > USB removable device monitor is the program that pops up the drive X: > has been attached when you plug in a USB memory key - it is not the > printer monitor that you need to run. I did a search and no USBMON was found. When I plug in a USB memory key the program pops up to show the drive attached so I presume the Event Monitor assumes this function. > USBMON should be in either \OS2 or \OS2\BOOT directory, if it's not in > either of those it suggests to me that because of how you installed > this system, you did not include usb printing support and you'll need > to install usb printer support. I'm not sure how you do this under eCS > - logically it'd be through selective install but given that eCS has > it's own install procedures, the OS/2 selective install may not work. > the other option would have been to download the USB Printing package > from Software Choice, but that's closed, so perhaps from > eComstation dot com or os2site dot com ? > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG ===