From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 00:01:17 EST-10EDT,10,1,0,7200,4,1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1939 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Sunday 11 April 2010 Number 1939 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 OT: Windows 7 and SD cards - BEWARE! : Ed Durrant 2 Re: OT: Windows 7 and SD cards - BEWARE! : Voytek Eymont" 3 Re: OT: Windows 7 and SD cards - BEWARE! : Peter L Allen 4 Re: OT: Windows 7 and SD cards - BEWARE! : Nicholas Lysaght 5 Re: OT: Windows 7 and SD cards - BEWARE! : Ed Durrant 6 SD Card readers under eCS WAS:(Re: OT: Windows 7 and SD cards - BEWARE!) : Ed Durrant 7 Re: SD Card readers under eCS WAS:(Re: OT: Windows 7 and SD cards - BEWARE!) : Mike O'Connor 8 Re: SD Card readers under eCS WAS:(Re: OT: : Nicholas Lysaght 9 eCUPS : Alan Duval 10 Re: eCUPS : Mike O'Connor 11 Re: eCUPS : Paul Smedley 12 Re: SD Card readers under eCS WAS:(Re: OT: Windows 7 and SD cards - BEWARE!) : Ed Durrant 13 Re: eCUPS : Ed Durrant 14 Re: eCUPS : Paul Smedley **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 10:23:08 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: OT: Windows 7 and SD cards - BEWARE! Hi, This is totally not OS/2 related (but an eCS/OS2 LVMed and formatted card could concievibly create the same problem). I have just upgraded my wife's PC from Vista to Windoze 7 (installing an SSD drive to replace the spinning drive at the same time). The system runs far better than before! I do however also want to backup her key data to an external removable store. As I have a mouse pad with included 4 port USB 2.0 hub and SDHC card reader/writer, an 8GB SD card seems a very good option! I have tried both the Windoze 7 included backup software and a commercial product, bith hit the same problem, part way through the backup it fails and a pop-up appears asking you what you want to do with the newly inserted SD card (play videos, open in explorer etc). Of course it hasn't been just plugged in but rather was there the whole time! So something is screwy - I search and found the following article which may explain the problem; http://www.thewindowsplanet dot com/sd-card-not-recognized-problem-in-windows-7 In short Microsoft have modified their SD card driver so that it no longer supports some SD cards that Vista and XP did support and only 100% compliant to standards cards (read those companies who partner with Microsoft) are supported now. -- Cheers/2 Ed Please checkout my podcasts at: http://eComStationAustralia.podbean dot com or via iTunes To subscribe - click this: http://eComStationAustralia.podbean dot com/feed -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 10:29:43 +1000 (EST) From: "Voytek Eymont" Subject: Re: OT: Windows 7 and SD cards - BEWARE! I'm just waiting to see you featured on the next MS commercial: --------------- I have just upgraded my wife's PC from Vista to Windoze 7 .... The system runs far better than before! On PC, Windoze 7 was my idea --------------- g,d&r -- Voytek -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 11:49:55 +1000 From: Peter L Allen Subject: Re: OT: Windows 7 and SD cards - BEWARE! Prolly no relevance - but - some time back a user complained that a device similar to below wouldn't read their card, winXP. After poking about disconnected the mouse from the hub and used a MB port - fixed! On Sunday 11 April 2010 10:23:08 Ed Durrant wrote: > Hi, > > This is totally not OS/2 related (but an eCS/OS2 LVMed and formatted > card could concievibly create the same problem). > > I have just upgraded my wife's PC from Vista to Windoze 7 (installing > an SSD drive to replace the spinning drive at the same time). The system > runs far better than before! > > I do however also want to backup her key data to an external removable > store. As I have a mouse pad with included 4 port USB 2.0 hub and SDHC > card reader/writer, an 8GB SD card seems a very good option! > > I have tried both the Windoze 7 included backup software and a > commercial product, bith hit the same problem, part way through the > backup it fails and a pop-up appears asking you what you want to do with > the newly inserted SD card (play videos, open in explorer etc). Of > course it hasn't been just plugged in but rather was there the whole > time! So something is screwy - I search and found the following article > which may explain the problem; > > http://www.thewindowsplanet dot com/sd-card-not-recognized-problem-in-windows-7 > > In short Microsoft have modified their SD card driver so that it no > longer supports some SD cards that Vista and XP did support and only > 100% compliant to standards cards (read those companies who partner with > Microsoft) are supported now. -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 10:36:26 +0800 From: Nicholas Lysaght Subject: Re: OT: Windows 7 and SD cards - BEWARE! Hi All. My wife's eeetop ET1602 has multiple USB ports and 1 built in Card Reader. eCs will not recognise the built in card reader, but will recognise a portable DSE Card Reader plugged into one of these ports. I also found that, on reading the link, if I placed the mouse over the active word "standards", advertisments for a gaming institution came up. Don't know what to make of that. On 11 April 2010 09:49, Peter L Allen wrote: > Prolly no relevance - but - some time back a user complained that a device > similar to below wouldn't read their card, winXP. After poking about > disconnected the mouse from the hub and used a MB port - fixed! > > > On Sunday 11 April 2010 10:23:08 Ed Durrant wrote: >> Hi, >> >>   This is totally not OS/2 related (but an eCS/OS2 LVMed and formatted >> card could concievibly create the same problem). >> >>   I have just upgraded my wife's PC from Vista to Windoze 7 (installing >> an SSD drive to replace the spinning drive at the same time). The system >> runs far better than before! >> >>   I do however also want to backup her key data to an external removable >> store. As I have a mouse pad with included 4 port USB 2.0 hub and SDHC >> card reader/writer, an 8GB SD card seems a very good option! >> >>   I have tried both the Windoze 7 included backup software and a >> commercial product, bith hit the same problem, part way through the >> backup it fails and a pop-up appears asking you what you want to do with >> the newly inserted SD card (play videos, open in explorer etc). Of >> course it hasn't been just plugged in but rather was there the  whole >> time! So something is screwy - I search and found the following article >> which may explain the problem; >> >> http://www.thewindowsplanet dot com/sd-card-not-recognized-problem-in-windows-7 >> >> In short Microsoft have modified their SD card driver so that it no >> longer supports some SD cards that Vista and XP did support and only >> 100% compliant to standards cards (read those companies who partner with >> Microsoft) are supported now. > > > -------------------------------------------------- >   >  http://www./melbpc/  -  The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === > -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:11:50 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: OT: Windows 7 and SD cards - BEWARE! Hi Peter, I don't think that's relevant given that MS have a KB article on the exact problem. the system has a USB mouse but that's connected directly to the PC on another USB port, not via the hub/card reader. Cheers/2 Ed. Peter L Allen wrote: > Prolly no relevance - but - some time back a user complained that a device > similar to below wouldn't read their card, winXP. After poking about > disconnected the mouse from the hub and used a MB port - fixed! > > > On Sunday 11 April 2010 10:23:08 Ed Durrant wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> This is totally not OS/2 related (but an eCS/OS2 LVMed and formatted >> card could concievibly create the same problem). >> >> I have just upgraded my wife's PC from Vista to Windoze 7 (installing >> an SSD drive to replace the spinning drive at the same time). The system >> runs far better than before! >> >> I do however also want to backup her key data to an external removable >> store. As I have a mouse pad with included 4 port USB 2.0 hub and SDHC >> card reader/writer, an 8GB SD card seems a very good option! >> >> I have tried both the Windoze 7 included backup software and a >> commercial product, bith hit the same problem, part way through the >> backup it fails and a pop-up appears asking you what you want to do with >> the newly inserted SD card (play videos, open in explorer etc). Of >> course it hasn't been just plugged in but rather was there the whole >> time! So something is screwy - I search and found the following article >> which may explain the problem; >> >> http://www.thewindowsplanet dot com/sd-card-not-recognized-problem-in-windows-7 >> >> In short Microsoft have modified their SD card driver so that it no >> longer supports some SD cards that Vista and XP did support and only >> 100% compliant to standards cards (read those companies who partner with >> Microsoft) are supported now. >> > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === > > -- Cheers/2 Ed Please checkout my podcasts at: http://eComStationAustralia.podbean dot com or via iTunes To subscribe - click this: http://eComStationAustralia.podbean dot com/feed -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:15:07 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: SD Card readers under eCS WAS:(Re: OT: Windows 7 and SD cards - BEWARE!) Nicholas Lysaght wrote: > Hi All. > > My wife's eeetop ET1602 has multiple USB ports and 1 built in Card > Reader. eCs will not recognise the built in card reader, but will > recognise a portable DSE Card Reader plugged into one of these ports. > > That's surprising, I have no problems with the built in reader in EeePC 701 and EeePC900HA netbooks, under eCS. I wonder if the ET1602 has an SD (as opposed to SDHC) reader in it? The external reader being SDHC. > I also found that, on reading the link, if I placed the mouse over the > active word "standards", advertisments for a gaming institution came > up. Don't know what to make of that. > Odd, was that in Firefox or Thunderbird / ThunderBrowse? > On 11 April 2010 09:49, Peter L Allen wrote: > >> Prolly no relevance - but - some time back a user complained that a device >> similar to below wouldn't read their card, winXP. After poking about >> disconnected the mouse from the hub and used a MB port - fixed! >> >> >> On Sunday 11 April 2010 10:23:08 Ed Durrant wrote: >> >> -- Cheers/2 Ed Please checkout my podcasts at: http://eComStationAustralia.podbean dot com or via iTunes To subscribe - click this: http://eComStationAustralia.podbean dot com/feed -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 7 ==========================** Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:22:17 +1000 From: Mike O'Connor Subject: Re: SD Card readers under eCS WAS:(Re: OT: Windows 7 and SD cards - BEWARE!) On 2010-04-11 14:15, Ed Durrant wrote: > Nicholas Lysaght wrote: >> Hi All. >> >> My wife's eeetop ET1602 has multiple USB ports and 1 built in Card >> Reader. eCs will not recognise the built in card reader, but will >> recognise a portable DSE Card Reader plugged into one of these ports. >> > That's surprising, I have no problems with the built in reader in > EeePC 701 and EeePC900HA netbooks, under eCS. > > I wonder if the ET1602 has an SD (as opposed to SDHC) reader in it? > The external reader being SDHC. Hi Ed, nick, Wasn't it always a "given" that eCS-OS/2 *didn't* support internal USB-connected readers? When I was scouting around for a SDHC for my NSW Homecare guy's EeePC-1000H, the only one of all those that I tried that it would read was a 4GB Panasonic Class 6 (discounted to $58, at the time)! Regards, Mike -- Failed the exam for -------------------- MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert -------------------- Personal replies to any of : mikeoc (at) internode (dot) on (dot) net mikeoc (at) austarnet (dot) com (dot) au majilok (at) gmail (dot) com [Please ZIP any attachments, other than GIF/JPG or plain-text] If you are missing a response from me - check Tweed Heads WX status at: http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR663.loop.shtml#skip -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 8 ==========================** Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 15:53:25 +0800 From: Nicholas Lysaght Subject: Re: SD Card readers under eCS WAS:(Re: OT: Hi All On 11 April 2010 12:22, Mike O'Connor wrote: > On 2010-04-11 14:15, Ed Durrant wrote: >> >> Nicholas Lysaght wrote: >>> >>> Hi All. >>> >>> My wife's eeetop ET1602 has multiple USB ports and 1 built in Card >>> Reader. eCs will not recognise the built in card reader, but will >>> recognise a portable DSE Card Reader plugged into one of these ports. >>> >> That's surprising, I have no problems with the built in reader in EeePC >> 701 and EeePC900HA netbooks, under eCS. >> >> I wonder if the ET1602 has an SD (as opposed to SDHC) reader in it? The >> external reader being SDHC. Retested it this afternoon. SanDisk 2.0GiB SD Card with pics from a Nikon 220 DigiCamera. eeepc 4G Surf (probably just a light blue PC701) works perfectly eeetop ET1602. Will not register a drive either by CLI or the Drives Object.. Haven't got DFSee set up on this yet...my 5 min tenure is up :-) I would guess that it probably does. Regards NICK > > Hi Ed, nick, > > Wasn't it always a "given" that eCS-OS/2 *didn't* support internal > USB-connected readers? > When I was scouting around for a SDHC for my NSW Homecare guy's EeePC-1000H, > the only one of all those that I tried that it would read was a 4GB > Panasonic Class 6 (discounted to $58, at the time)! > > Regards, > Mike > > -- > Failed the exam for > -------------------- > MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert > -------------------- > Personal replies to any of : > mikeoc (at) internode (dot) on (dot) net > mikeoc (at) austarnet (dot) com (dot) au > majilok (at) gmail (dot) com > [Please ZIP any attachments, other than GIF/JPG or plain-text] > If you are missing a response from me - check Tweed Heads WX status at: > http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR663.loop.shtml#skip > > -------------------------------------------------- > > http://www./melbpc/  -  The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === > -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG **= Email 9 ==========================** Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 19:25:18 +1100 From: Alan Duval Subject: eCUPS My HP 960C printer has started malfunctioning so I bought a HP Officejet Pro 5300 and in trying to get it to work have downloaded eCUPS003.wpi and installed it but I am unable to use eCups. I type http://localhost:631/ in Firefox but can't access the site. If I could the instructions say to open 'admin', check 'allow remote administration' and then click change settings button'.Apparently a password has to be then entered, but I don't use a password in eCs. Then instructions say to run lpinfo -v. There is no such command in eCs so I am totally confused. Could someone advise what to do? Thanks, Alan Duval -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 10 ==========================** Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 19:50:55 +1000 From: Mike O'Connor Subject: Re: eCUPS On 2010-04-11 18:25, Alan Duval wrote: > My HP 960C printer has started malfunctioning so I bought a HP > Officejet Pro 5300 and in trying to get it to work have downloaded > eCUPS003.wpi and installed it but I am unable to use eCups. I type > http://localhost:631/ in Firefox but can't access the site. If I could > the instructions say to open 'admin', check 'allow remote > administration' and then click change settings button'.Apparently a > password has to be then entered, but I don't use a password in eCs. > Then instructions say to run lpinfo -v. There is no such command in > eCs so I am totally confused. > Could someone advise what to do? > > Thanks, > > Alan Duval Hi Alan, sorry I can't help you, but just to confirm, I also don't have any file by that name either on eCSV2.0RC7 (Silver) or any other of a bunch of volumes. I also don't currently have eCUPS installed here, in case it was included with it. Regards, Mike -- Failed the exam for -------------------- MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert -------------------- Personal replies to any of : mikeoc (at) internode (dot) on (dot) net mikeoc (at) austarnet (dot) com (dot) au majilok (at) gmail (dot) com [Please ZIP any attachments, other than GIF/JPG or plain-text] If you are missing a response from me - check Tweed Heads WX status at: http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR663.loop.shtml#skip -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 11 ==========================** Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 19:08:53 +0845 From: Paul Smedley Subject: Re: eCUPS Hi Alan, On 11/04/10 17:10, Alan Duval wrote: > My HP 960C printer has started malfunctioning so I bought a HP Officejet > Pro 5300 and in trying to get it to work have downloaded eCUPS003.wpi > and installed it but I am unable to use eCups. I type > http://localhost:631/ in Firefox but can't access the site. If I could > the instructions say to open 'admin', check 'allow remote > administration' and then click change settings button'.Apparently a > password has to be then entered, but I don't use a password in eCs. > Then instructions say to run lpinfo -v. There is no such command in eCs > so I am totally confused. > Could someone advise what to do? cc: sent o you directly as my mails to the mailing list sometimes get treated as spam... Firstly - whilst I didn't create the ecups003.wpi - I did port cups + gutenprint, etc - so I can probably help :) I'm assuming the warpin has correctly created all the folders - do you have a \cups & \gutenprint ? Has cupsd.exe been started? I think the .wpi adds it to startup - did you reboot after installing? If not, you can load it manually by double clicking the object. Given that you're using a HP - you may also want to download my port of hplip which iirc i added to http://svn dot netlabs dot org/ecups Hope this helps, Paul -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 12 ==========================** Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 21:35:49 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: SD Card readers under eCS WAS:(Re: OT: Windows 7 and SD cards - BEWARE!) Nicholas Lysaght wrote: > Hi All > > > On 11 April 2010 12:22, Mike O'Connor wrote: > >> On 2010-04-11 14:15, Ed Durrant wrote: >> >>> Nicholas Lysaght wrote: >>> >>>> Hi All. >>>> >>>> My wife's eeetop ET1602 has multiple USB ports and 1 built in Card >>>> Reader. eCs will not recognise the built in card reader, but will >>>> recognise a portable DSE Card Reader plugged into one of these ports. >>>> >>>> >>> That's surprising, I have no problems with the built in reader in EeePC >>> 701 and EeePC900HA netbooks, under eCS. >>> >>> I wonder if the ET1602 has an SD (as opposed to SDHC) reader in it? The >>> external reader being SDHC. >>> > > Retested it this afternoon. > > SanDisk 2.0GiB SD Card with pics from a Nikon 220 DigiCamera. > > eeepc 4G Surf (probably just a light blue PC701) works perfectly > > eeetop ET1602. Will not register a drive either by CLI or the Drives Object. > > Haven't got DFSee set up on this yet...my 5 min tenure is up :-) I > would guess that it probably does. > > Regards > > NICK > > > =========================================== > Is the ET1602 running Windows 7? If so you probably have the problem that I originally referred to. If both the 4G Surf (no webcam version of the 701) and the ET1602 are both running eCS 2.0 Silver (or at least the same version of an operating system), then this points to a deficiency in the ET1602's hardware. -- Cheers/2 Ed Please checkout my podcasts at: http://eComStationAustralia.podbean dot com or via iTunes To subscribe - click this: http://eComStationAustralia.podbean dot com/feed -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 13 ==========================** Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 21:37:45 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: eCUPS Alan Duval wrote: > My HP 960C printer has started malfunctioning so I bought a HP > Officejet Pro 5300 and in trying to get it to work have downloaded > eCUPS003.wpi and installed it but I am unable to use eCups. I type > http://localhost:631/ in Firefox but can't access the site. If I could > the instructions say to open 'admin', check 'allow remote > administration' and then click change settings button'.Apparently a > password has to be then entered, but I don't use a password in eCs. > Then instructions say to run lpinfo -v. There is no such command in > eCs so I am totally confused. > Could someone advise what to do? > > Thanks, > > Alan Duval > -------------------------------------------------- > > http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === > eCUPS "Howto": http://svn dot netlabs dot org/ecups/wiki/HowTo -- Cheers/2 Ed Please checkout my podcasts at: http://eComStationAustralia.podbean dot com or via iTunes To subscribe - click this: http://eComStationAustralia.podbean dot com/feed -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 14 ==========================** Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 20:47:12 +0930 From: Paul Smedley Subject: Re: eCUPS Hi Alan, On 11/04/10 7:11 PM, Alan Duval wrote: >> Has cupsd.exe been started? I think the .wpi adds it to startup - did >> you reboot after installing? If not, you can load it manually by >> double clicking the object. > Had rebooted but cupsd.exe hadn't been added to startup. Double clicked > it and was able to open http://localhost:631 in Firefox and as my HP > Officejet Pro K5300 wasn't listed with the Officejet Pro's and all of > them had the driver 'CUPS + Gutenprint" assigned, I chose the latest > Officejet Pro and installed it's driver. I was able to print a test page > but the color wheel has a lot of black in the centre. Print otherwise is > good. > My problem now: How do I get my word processor to use this driver? You need to setup a printer using the ecups printer driver, and using the ecups port driver -this is convered in the howto at svn dot netlabs/ecups >> Given that you're using a HP - you may also want to download my port >> of hplip which iirc i added to http://svn dot netlabs dot org/ecups >> >> Hope this helps, >> >> Paul >> > If I download hplip, where do I install it? Unzip into the root of the driver where cups is already, then go to http://localhost:631 again - and rerun the 'add printer' part - most likely the specific printer model will be there. There is also an OS/2 ecups-hp printer driver available - but some options to select resolution & print quality are currently missing from the driver - I still need to figure out why... Cheers, Paul -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG ===