From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 00:00:54 EST-10EDT,10,1,0,7200,4,1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1940 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Monday 12 April 2010 Number 1940 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 Re: eCUPS : Alan Duval 2 Re: eCUPS : Alan Duval 3 Re: eCUPS : paul at smedley dot id dot au 4 Re: eCUPS : Ed Durrant 5 Re: eCUPS + GA release date : Michael/Gail Peters" 6 Re: eCUPS : Alan Duval 7 Re: eCUPS : Paul Smedley 8 Re: eCUPS : david shearer 9 Re: eCUPS : Peter Moylan **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 10:30:28 +1100 From: Alan Duval Subject: Re: eCUPS Thanks Paul. I didn't see that "How to" in svn dot netlabs dot org. Today the printer test page was printing it's output on only 1/2 of the width of the A4 sheet but full length. This also happened with pages from my word processor. I changed the set printer options to "Expand (Use maximum page area)" and changed resolution to 150X150 dpi as the color wheel has a black central area decreasing in density to about 2/3 the distance to the wheels circumference. The radial lines don't print properly either. However print comes out OK so if I want to print images in color I'll have to go to Ubuntu. I have used The HP Officejet Pro 1175C - CUPS + Gutenprint v5.2.4 driver as there is none for the HP Officejet Pro K5300 printer although Ubuntu found a driver for it. All HP printers have the "CUPS + Gutenprint v5.2.4" driver so don't know whether it is tuned for each model or just a generic driver. I followed your instructions re the "hplip" driver but couldn't find the K5300 driver. In a month's time this computer and printer will be going to my office where I'll be using Ubuntu. I'll then get out an Epson Color Stylus 680 parallel port printer that I bought years ago and install it to my other PC. I hope I can get a driver for it. Regards, Alan Paul Smedley wrote: > Hi Alan, > > On 11/04/10 7:11 PM, Alan Duval wrote: >>> Has cupsd.exe been started? I think the .wpi adds it to startup - did >>> you reboot after installing? If not, you can load it manually by >>> double clicking the object. >> Had rebooted but cupsd.exe hadn't been added to startup. Double clicked >> it and was able to open http://localhost:631 in Firefox and as my HP >> Officejet Pro K5300 wasn't listed with the Officejet Pro's and all of >> them had the driver 'CUPS + Gutenprint" assigned, I chose the latest >> Officejet Pro and installed it's driver. I was able to print a test page >> but the color wheel has a lot of black in the centre. Print otherwise is >> good. >> My problem now: How do I get my word processor to use this driver? > > You need to setup a printer using the ecups printer driver, and using > the ecups port driver -this is convered in the howto at svn dot netlabs/ecups > >>> Given that you're using a HP - you may also want to download my port >>> of hplip which iirc i added to http://svn dot netlabs dot org/ecups >>> >>> Hope this helps, >>> >>> Paul >>> >> If I download hplip, where do I install it? > Unzip into the root of the driver where cups is already, then go to > http://localhost:631 again - and rerun the 'add printer' part - most > likely the specific printer model will be there. > > There is also an OS/2 ecups-hp printer driver available - but some > options to select resolution & print quality are currently missing > from the driver - I still need to figure out why... > > Cheers, > > Paul > -------------------------------------------------- > > http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === > -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 13:14:56 +1100 From: Alan Duval Subject: Re: eCUPS Paul Smedley wrote: > Given that you're using a HP - you may also want to download my port >>> of hplip which iirc i added to http://svn dot netlabs dot org/ecups >>> >>> Hope this helps, >>> >>> Paul >>> >> If I download hplip, where do I install it? > Unzip into the root of the driver where cups is already, then go to > http://localhost:631 again - and rerun the 'add printer' part - most > likely the specific printer model will be there. > > There is also an OS/2 ecups-hp printer driver available - but some > options to select resolution & print quality are currently missing > from the driver - I still need to figure out why... I downloaded your port of hplip and unzipped it to C: where cups is. I find that the drivers are in C:\cups\share\ppd\HP and the driver "hp_officejet_pro_K5300.ppd.gz" is there but it doesn't seem to show when I rerun the 'add printer' part in http://localhost:631. I'd like to install this driver as the HP Officejet Pro 1175C - CUPS + Gutenprint v5.2.4 driver isn't ideal. Should the *.ppd.gz file be unpacked further with tar gz? Regards, Alan -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 03:33:01 +0000 From: paul at smedley dot id dot au Subject: Re: eCUPS Hi Alan, Quoting "Alan Duval" : > I downloaded your port of hplip and unzipped it to C: where cups is. > I find that the drivers are in C:\cups\share\ppd\HP and the driver > "hp_officejet_pro_K5300.ppd.gz" is there but it doesn't seem to > show when I rerun the 'add printer' part in http://localhost:631. I think this path is wrong.... At work right now, but from memory it should be in: \cups\share\cups\model\hp\*.ppd.gz Cheers, Paul ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 13:46:03 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: eCUPS Alan Duval wrote: > > In a month's time this computer and printer will be going to my office > where I'll be using Ubuntu. I'll then get out an Epson Color Stylus > 680 parallel port printer that I bought years ago and install it to my > other PC. I hope I can get a driver for it. > > Regards, > > Alan > There's a native OS/2 driver for the Epson Stylus Color 680 as I ran it for many, many years. If you can't find it (it's the epsomni5 I think) send me a PM and I'll e-mail it to you. -- Cheers/2 Ed Please checkout my podcasts at: http://eComStationAustralia.podbean dot com or via iTunes To subscribe - click this: http://eComStationAustralia.podbean dot com/feed -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 15:45:30 +1000 From: "Michael/Gail Peters" Subject: Re: eCUPS + GA release date Ed, Thanks for reporting the GA release date on your podcast. Boy, what a wait... Mike -------------------------------------------------- From: "Ed Durrant" Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 9:37 PM To: Subject: Re: eCUPS > > Please checkout my podcasts at: > http://eComStationAustralia.podbean dot com or via iTunes > To subscribe - click this: http://eComStationAustralia.podbean dot com/feed > > -------------------------------------------------- > > http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 18:59:48 +1100 From: Alan Duval Subject: Re: eCUPS paul at smedley dot id dot au wrote: > Hi Alan, > > Quoting "Alan Duval" : >> I downloaded your port of hplip and unzipped it to C: where cups is. >> I find that the drivers are in C:\cups\share\ppd\HP and the driver >> "hp_officejet_pro_K5300.ppd.gz" is there but it doesn't seem to show >> when I rerun the 'add printer' part in http://localhost:631. > I think this path is wrong.... At work right now, but from memory it > should be in: > \cups\share\cups\model\hp\*.ppd.gz I copied the HP folder to the path you suggested and the driver now shows in the list of printers displayed in the localhost:631 screen. Hence I deleted the previous printer and added a printer with the HP driver but test page doesn't print. Error line "\cups\lib\cups\filter\hpcups.exe failed" is displayed in the localhost:631 screen. I didn't change anything in eCS so don't know whether I should have deleted the printer in eCs also. Regards, Alan -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 7 ==========================** Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 19:02:21 +0845 From: Paul Smedley Subject: Re: eCUPS Hi Alan, On 12/04/10 16:44, Alan Duval wrote: > paul at smedley dot id dot au wrote: >> Hi Alan, >> >> Quoting "Alan Duval" : >>> I downloaded your port of hplip and unzipped it to C: where cups is. >>> I find that the drivers are in C:\cups\share\ppd\HP and the driver >>> "hp_officejet_pro_K5300.ppd.gz" is there but it doesn't seem to show >>> when I rerun the 'add printer' part in http://localhost:631. >> I think this path is wrong.... At work right now, but from memory it >> should be in: >> \cups\share\cups\model\hp\*.ppd.gz > > I copied the HP folder to the path you suggested and the driver now > shows in the list of printers displayed in the localhost:631 screen. > Hence I deleted the previous printer and added a printer with the HP > driver but test page doesn't print. Error line > "\cups\lib\cups\filter\hpcups.exe failed" is displayed in the > localhost:631 screen. I didn't change anything in eCS so don't know > whether I should have deleted the printer in eCs also. Try printing a real document - the test print probably failed due to missing resolution option - long story - related to the missing resolution/print quality options in the hplip ppd files that I mentioned earlier. Cheers, Paul -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 8 ==========================** Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 21:35:21 +1000 From: david shearer Subject: Re: eCUPS Paul Smedley wrote: > Hi Alan, > > On 12/04/10 16:44, Alan Duval wrote: >> paul at smedley dot id dot au wrote: >>> Hi Alan, >>> >>> Quoting "Alan Duval" : >>>> I downloaded your port of hplip and unzipped it to C: where cups is. >>>> I find that the drivers are in C:\cups\share\ppd\HP and the driver >>>> "hp_officejet_pro_K5300.ppd.gz" is there but it doesn't seem to show >>>> when I rerun the 'add printer' part in http://localhost:631. >>> I think this path is wrong.... At work right now, but from memory it >>> should be in: >>> \cups\share\cups\model\hp\*.ppd.gz >> >> I copied the HP folder to the path you suggested and the driver now >> shows in the list of printers displayed in the localhost:631 screen. >> Hence I deleted the previous printer and added a printer with the HP >> driver but test page doesn't print. Error line >> "\cups\lib\cups\filter\hpcups.exe failed" is displayed in the >> localhost:631 screen. I didn't change anything in eCS so don't know >> whether I should have deleted the printer in eCs also. > > Try printing a real document - the test print probably failed due to > missing resolution option - long story - related to the missing > resolution/print quality options in the hplip ppd files that I > mentioned earlier. > > Cheers, > > Paul > -------------------------------------------------- > > http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === > For what its worth I have a HP Officejet pro 5400dtn - network printer. It works flawlessly with eCups and hplib. there is a bit of fiddling around but eventually got it to work including with a print object. david -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 9 ==========================** Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 23:37:46 +1000 From: Peter Moylan Subject: Re: eCUPS david shearer wrote: > For what its worth I have a HP Officejet pro 5400dtn - network > printer. It works flawlessly with eCups and hplib. there is a bit > of fiddling around but eventually got it to work including with a > print object. > My experience: Cups works once you have it set up, but the installation is somewhat tricky, and you have to follow the "how to do it" instructions really closely. There are some counter-intuitive requirements, for example that the "gs" and "gutenprint" directories must both be at the top level of the directory tree. (And must be on the system partition? I've forgotten, but certainly they ended up on the C: drive on my system, and normally I don't let anything install on the system drive unless it is so crippled that it won't work on other drives.) What we really need a WarpIn script to automate those less-than-obvious details. Any volunteers? I'm not volunteering myself, because I still haven't understood Warpin well enough to be able to design a Warpin script for my own software. In my case, I ended up getting no use out of it, because it turned out that the only printer I had that it worked for was an HP 880C Deskjet, which already has perfectly good OS/2 drivers. I had really intended to use it for a newer Brother printer, but from Paul's comments it seems that Brother printers will never be supported. (I bought Brother in the first place because I thought that they weren't locked in with Microsoft, but I was wrong; apparently they're not going to release enough information to allow non-Windows drivers to be developed.) Nevertheless, it was an interesting exercise proving to myself that Cups did indeed work. Meanwhile, the HP printer is out of ink again, and I've finally decided that I've spent far more on refilling ink cartridges than the printer is worth. Time to get a laser printer. The really basic (but quite adequate) black-and-white laser printers have become really cheap - recently Dick Smith was selling quite a good one for less than $100. I'm leaning myself towards the idea of a laser printer with a wireless network interface - to the best of my knowledge these all work with OS/2, although I've never put it to the test - so that my Windows laptop will also finally be able to print without the annoying overhead of having to transport the laptop over to where the Brother printer is. The Brother printer can go back to being a scanner and photocopier (it used to be a fax machine as well, but a lightning strike took care of that), and as a printer for the very rare cases where colour printing is desirable. I have never really understood why a network printer requires drivers on every machine that wants to use the printer. In my mind it should be sufficient to have a "generic network printer" driver on all machines, plus a manufacturer-specific driver _only_ on the machine that the printer is directly connected to. The fact that we can't do this says to me that someone really screwed up the design of OS support for printers. But I'll give full credit to the Postscript designers; they came closest to implementing this ideal. -- Peter Moylan peter at pmoylan dot org http://www.pmoylan dot org -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG ===