From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 00:01:17 EST-10EDT,10,1,0,7200,4,1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1995 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Tuesday 03 August 2010 Number 1995 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 Re: Google street View working under OS/2 : Ed Durrant 2 Scroll bars on WPS : Ed Durrant 3 Re: Scroll bars on WPS : Mike O'Connor 4 Re: Scroll bars on WPS : Ed Durrant 5 Re: Scroll bars on WPS : Ed Durrant 6 Re: Scroll bars on WPS : Mike O'Connor 7 Re: Scroll bars on WPS : Ed Durrant 8 Re: Scroll bars on WPS : Mike O'Connor 9 Re: Scroll bars on WPS : Ed Durrant 10 Re: Scroll bars on WPS : Mike O'Connor 11 Re: Scroll bars on WPS : Ed Durrant 12 Re: Scroll bars on WPS : Mike O'Connor 13 Re: Scroll bars on WPS : Ed Durrant 14 Re: Scroll bars on WPS : Mike O'Connor **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2010 07:06:46 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Google street View working under OS/2 Voytek Eymont wrote: > > > >> I found this out when I went to take a look at an APRS site >> (http://aprs.fi) and then clicked on one of the points and selected >> "track in street view". >> > > can you track Sydney ferries with this ? > > > > Voytek > > > You can only track boats or vehicles that voluntarily give their location to the system. I don't know if the Sydney Ferries do that or not. Can you see any marked on the map it you navigate to Sydney Harbour. Of course street view isn't going to be available for water born vessels! -- Cheers/eCS2.0 Ed Please checkout my podcasts at: http://eComStationAustralia.podbean dot com or via iTunes To subscribe - click this: http://eComStationAustralia.podbean dot com/feed -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2010 08:00:13 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Scroll bars on WPS Hi, All of a sudden on my eCS 2.0 RC6a environment, when I boot up, there are scroll bars on the RHS and bottom of the screen - nothing is right at the edge of the WPS and I have tried moving everything in a little to no avail. I've tried changing screen resolution - again no change to the situation. I think if I go to an archive backup of the WPS, it will be OK, so does anyone know what causes this problem? -- Cheers/eCS2.0 Ed Please checkout my podcasts at: http://eComStationAustralia.podbean dot com or via iTunes To subscribe - click this: http://eComStationAustralia.podbean dot com/feed -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2010 08:03:31 +1000 From: Mike O'Connor Subject: Re: Scroll bars on WPS Ed Durrant wrote: > Hi, > > All of a sudden on my eCS 2.0 RC6a environment, when I boot up, there > are scroll bars on the RHS and bottom of the screen - nothing is right > at the edge of the WPS and I have tried moving everything in a little > to no avail. I've tried changing screen resolution - again no change > to the situation. > > I think if I go to an archive backup of the WPS, it will be OK, so > does anyone know what causes this problem? > Hi Ed, If you have PMview installed, I believe it puts an "invisible" item on the desktop for drag'n'drop! ;-) Did you use the CTRL+Left_arrow/CTRL+Right_arrow to check if there was something waaaay off the edges, in addition to page-up and page-down?? Regards, Mike -- Failed the exam for -------------------- MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert -------------------- Personal replies to any of : mikeoc (at) internode (dot) on (dot) net mikeoc (at) austarnet (dot) com (dot) au majilok (at) gmail (dot) com [Please ZIP any attachments, other than GIF/JPG or plain-text] If you are missing a response from me - check Tweed Heads WX status at: http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR663.loop.shtml#skip -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2010 08:36:12 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Scroll bars on WPS Mike O'Connor wrote: > Ed Durrant wrote: >> Hi, >> >> All of a sudden on my eCS 2.0 RC6a environment, when I boot up, >> there are scroll bars on the RHS and bottom of the screen - nothing >> is right at the edge of the WPS and I have tried moving everything in >> a little to no avail. I've tried changing screen resolution - again >> no change to the situation. >> >> I think if I go to an archive backup of the WPS, it will be OK, so >> does anyone know what causes this problem? >> > Hi Ed, > > If you have PMview installed, I believe it puts an "invisible" item on > the desktop for drag'n'drop! ;-) > Did you use the CTRL+Left_arrow/CTRL+Right_arrow to check if there was > something waaaay off the edges, in addition to page-up and page-down?? > > Regards, > Mike > Hi Mike, PMView is installed but it has been installed "for ever" - so why did it not cause this problem before ? I have only scrolled up and across - so I'll reboot back to the situation and try CTRL+Left_arrow/CTRL+Right_arrow to see it they find anything. -- Cheers/eCS2.0 Ed Please checkout my podcasts at: http://eComStationAustralia.podbean dot com or via iTunes To subscribe - click this: http://eComStationAustralia.podbean dot com/feed -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2010 08:41:13 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Scroll bars on WPS Ed Durrant wrote: > Mike O'Connor wrote: >> Ed Durrant wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> All of a sudden on my eCS 2.0 RC6a environment, when I boot up, >>> there are scroll bars on the RHS and bottom of the screen - nothing >>> is right at the edge of the WPS and I have tried moving everything >>> in a little to no avail. I've tried changing screen resolution - >>> again no change to the situation. >>> >>> I think if I go to an archive backup of the WPS, it will be OK, so >>> does anyone know what causes this problem? >>> >> Hi Ed, >> >> If you have PMview installed, I believe it puts an "invisible" item >> on the desktop for drag'n'drop! ;-) >> Did you use the CTRL+Left_arrow/CTRL+Right_arrow to check if there >> was something waaaay off the edges, in addition to page-up and >> page-down?? >> >> Regards, >> Mike >> > Hi Mike, > > PMView is installed but it has been installed "for ever" - so why > did it not cause this problem before ? > > I have only scrolled up and across - so I'll reboot back to the > situation and try CTRL+Left_arrow/CTRL+Right_arrow to see it they find > anything. > > > CTRL+Left_arrow/CTRL+Right_arrow (and CRTL+up and down arrows) did nothing (not even move the scroll bar). -- Cheers/eCS2.0 Ed Please checkout my podcasts at: http://eComStationAustralia.podbean dot com or via iTunes To subscribe - click this: http://eComStationAustralia.podbean dot com/feed -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2010 09:55:32 +1000 From: Mike O'Connor Subject: Re: Scroll bars on WPS Ed Durrant wrote: > Ed Durrant wrote: >> Hi Mike, >> >> PMView is installed but it has been installed "for ever" - so why >> did it not cause this problem before ? >> >> I have only scrolled up and across - so I'll reboot back to the >> situation and try CTRL+Left_arrow/CTRL+Right_arrow to see it they >> find anything. >> >> >> > CTRL+Left_arrow/CTRL+Right_arrow (and CRTL+up and down arrows) did > nothing (not even move the scroll bar). > > Hi Ed, Personally I haven't had PMView do that to me, but remembered others mentioning having the problem. I guess you did the usual trick of tiling/cascading to see if anything "lost off-screen" shows up? Regards, Mike -- Failed the exam for -------------------- MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert -------------------- Personal replies to any of : mikeoc (at) internode (dot) on (dot) net mikeoc (at) austarnet (dot) com (dot) au majilok (at) gmail (dot) com [Please ZIP any attachments, other than GIF/JPG or plain-text] If you are missing a response from me - check Tweed Heads WX status at: http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR663.loop.shtml#skip -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 7 ==========================** Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2010 10:16:28 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Scroll bars on WPS Mike O'Connor wrote: > Ed Durrant wrote: >> Ed Durrant wrote: >>> Hi Mike, >>> >>> PMView is installed but it has been installed "for ever" - so why >>> did it not cause this problem before ? >>> >>> I have only scrolled up and across - so I'll reboot back to the >>> situation and try CTRL+Left_arrow/CTRL+Right_arrow to see it they >>> find anything. >>> >>> >>> >> CTRL+Left_arrow/CTRL+Right_arrow (and CRTL+up and down arrows) did >> nothing (not even move the scroll bar). >> >> > Hi Ed, > > Personally I haven't had PMView do that to me, but remembered others > mentioning having the problem. > I guess you did the usual trick of tiling/cascading to see if anything > "lost off-screen" shows up? > > Regards, > Mike > Yes tried that and what was strange is that when I took "normal" the preview showed blank space left and right of the picture while on the actual desktop the blank spae was above and below the picture ! -- Cheers/eCS2.0 Ed Please checkout my podcasts at: http://eComStationAustralia.podbean dot com or via iTunes To subscribe - click this: http://eComStationAustralia.podbean dot com/feed -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 8 ==========================** Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2010 12:41:01 +1000 From: Mike O'Connor Subject: Re: Scroll bars on WPS Ed Durrant wrote: > Mike O'Connor wrote: >> Hi Ed, >> >> Personally I haven't had PMView do that to me, but remembered others >> mentioning having the problem. >> I guess you did the usual trick of tiling/cascading to see if >> anything "lost off-screen" shows up? >> >> Regards, >> Mike >> > Yes tried that and what was strange is that when I took "normal" the > preview showed blank space left and right of the picture while on the > actual desktop the blank spae was above and below the picture ! > Hi Ed, I think we're on different pages here - where do you get to see a preview? Sounds more like a PMView function than the WPS? Regards, Mike -- Failed the exam for -------------------- MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert -------------------- Personal replies to any of : mikeoc (at) internode (dot) on (dot) net mikeoc (at) austarnet (dot) com (dot) au majilok (at) gmail (dot) com [Please ZIP any attachments, other than GIF/JPG or plain-text] If you are missing a response from me - check Tweed Heads WX status at: http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR663.loop.shtml#skip -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 9 ==========================** Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2010 12:49:37 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Scroll bars on WPS Mike O'Connor wrote: > Ed Durrant wrote: >> Mike O'Connor wrote: >>> Hi Ed, >>> >>> Personally I haven't had PMView do that to me, but remembered others >>> mentioning having the problem. >>> I guess you did the usual trick of tiling/cascading to see if >>> anything "lost off-screen" shows up? >>> >>> Regards, >>> Mike >>> >> Yes tried that and what was strange is that when I took "normal" the >> preview showed blank space left and right of the picture while on the >> actual desktop the blank spae was above and below the picture ! >> > Hi Ed, > > I think we're on different pages here - where do you get to see a > preview? Sounds more like a PMView function than the WPS? > > Regards, > Mike > Desktop Properties - background setting. Ed. -- Cheers/eCS2.0 Ed Please checkout my podcasts at: http://eComStationAustralia.podbean dot com or via iTunes To subscribe - click this: http://eComStationAustralia.podbean dot com/feed -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 10 ==========================** Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2010 21:47:17 +1000 From: Mike O'Connor Subject: Re: Scroll bars on WPS Ed Durrant wrote: > Mike O'Connor wrote: >> Ed Durrant wrote: >>> Mike O'Connor wrote: >>>> Hi Ed, >>>> >>>> Personally I haven't had PMView do that to me, but remembered >>>> others mentioning having the problem. >>>> I guess you did the usual trick of tiling/cascading to see if >>>> anything "lost off-screen" shows up? >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Mike >>>> >>> Yes tried that and what was strange is that when I took "normal" the >>> preview showed blank space left and right of the picture while on >>> the actual desktop the blank spae was above and below the picture ! >>> >> Hi Ed, >> >> I think we're on different pages here - where do you get to see a >> preview? Sounds more like a PMView function than the WPS? >> >> Regards, >> Mike >> > Desktop Properties - background setting. > > Ed. > Hi Ed, Obviously you misunderstood what I was referring to! I was referring to the RMB on running programs in the CTRL-ESC window list, where one can select TILE & CASCADE to retrieve items that are off the screen video display! Regards, Mike -- Failed the exam for -------------------- MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert -------------------- Personal replies to any of : mikeoc (at) internode (dot) on (dot) net mikeoc (at) austarnet (dot) com (dot) au majilok (at) gmail (dot) com [Please ZIP any attachments, other than GIF/JPG or plain-text] If you are missing a response from me - check Tweed Heads WX status at: http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR663.loop.shtml#skip -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 11 ==========================** Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2010 22:03:37 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Scroll bars on WPS Mike O'Connor wrote: > Ed Durrant wrote: >> Mike O'Connor wrote: >>> Ed Durrant wrote: >>>> Mike O'Connor wrote: >>>>> Hi Ed, >>>>> >>>>> Personally I haven't had PMView do that to me, but remembered >>>>> others mentioning having the problem. >>>>> I guess you did the usual trick of tiling/cascading to see if >>>>> anything "lost off-screen" shows up? >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Mike >>>>> >>>> Yes tried that and what was strange is that when I took "normal" >>>> the preview showed blank space left and right of the picture while >>>> on the actual desktop the blank spae was above and below the picture ! >>>> >>> Hi Ed, >>> >>> I think we're on different pages here - where do you get to see a >>> preview? Sounds more like a PMView function than the WPS? >>> >>> Regards, >>> Mike >>> >> Desktop Properties - background setting. >> >> Ed. >> > Hi Ed, > > Obviously you misunderstood what I was referring to! > I was referring to the RMB on running programs in the CTRL-ESC window > list, where one can select TILE & CASCADE to retrieve items that are > off the screen video display! > > Regards, > Mike > Oh, I see. OK, done that and two possible "culprits" were the command window for the CUPS daemon and X-File (they both run "hidden"). I've moved these now, so now I'll shutdown and see if that's fixed it. Restoring a previous archive of the desktop did not fix it, so it could well be something that is caused by objects started from the startup folder - as are both X-File and eCUPS. -- Cheers/eCS2.0 Ed Please checkout my podcasts at: http://eComStationAustralia.podbean dot com or via iTunes To subscribe - click this: http://eComStationAustralia.podbean dot com/feed -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 12 ==========================** Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2010 22:15:54 +1000 From: Mike O'Connor Subject: Re: Scroll bars on WPS Ed Durrant wrote: > Mike O'Connor wrote: >> Hi Ed, >> >> Obviously you misunderstood what I was referring to! >> I was referring to the RMB on running programs in the CTRL-ESC window >> list, where one can select TILE & CASCADE to retrieve items that are >> off the screen video display! >> >> Regards, >> Mike >> > Oh, I see. OK, done that and two possible "culprits" were the command > window for the CUPS daemon and X-File (they both run "hidden"). I've > moved these now, so now I'll shutdown and see if that's fixed it. > > Restoring a previous archive of the desktop did not fix it, so it > could well be something that is caused by objects started from the > startup folder - as are both X-File and eCUPS. > > > OK - see you after the reboot. Regards, Mike -- Failed the exam for -------------------- MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert -------------------- Personal replies to any of : mikeoc (at) internode (dot) on (dot) net mikeoc (at) austarnet (dot) com (dot) au majilok (at) gmail (dot) com [Please ZIP any attachments, other than GIF/JPG or plain-text] If you are missing a response from me - check Tweed Heads WX status at: http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR663.loop.shtml#skip -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 13 ==========================** Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2010 22:44:57 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Scroll bars on WPS Mike O'Connor wrote: > Ed Durrant wrote: >> Mike O'Connor wrote: >>> Hi Ed, >>> >>> Obviously you misunderstood what I was referring to! >>> I was referring to the RMB on running programs in the CTRL-ESC >>> window list, where one can select TILE & CASCADE to retrieve items >>> that are off the screen video display! >>> >>> Regards, >>> Mike >>> >> Oh, I see. OK, done that and two possible "culprits" were the command >> window for the CUPS daemon and X-File (they both run "hidden"). I've >> moved these now, so now I'll shutdown and see if that's fixed it. >> >> Restoring a previous archive of the desktop did not fix it, so it >> could well be something that is caused by objects started from the >> startup folder - as are both X-File and eCUPS. >> >> >> > OK - see you after the reboot. > > Regards, > Mike > > > Nope - no change - still the scroll bar. -- Cheers/eCS2.0 Ed Please checkout my podcasts at: http://eComStationAustralia.podbean dot com or via iTunes To subscribe - click this: http://eComStationAustralia.podbean dot com/feed -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 14 ==========================** Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2010 23:14:04 +1000 From: Mike O'Connor Subject: Re: Scroll bars on WPS Ed Durrant wrote: > Mike O'Connor wrote: >> Ed Durrant wrote: >>> Oh, I see. OK, done that and two possible "culprits" were the >>> command window for the CUPS daemon and X-File (they both run >>> "hidden"). I've moved these now, so now I'll shutdown and see if >>> that's fixed it. >>> >>> Restoring a previous archive of the desktop did not fix it, so it >>> could well be something that is caused by objects started from the >>> startup folder - as are both X-File and eCUPS. >>> >> OK - see you after the reboot. >> > Nope - no change - still the scroll bar. > > Hi Ed, I'd do a cleanup of the os2*.ini with Unimaint now! Regards, Mike -- Failed the exam for -------------------- MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert -------------------- Personal replies to any of : mikeoc (at) internode (dot) on (dot) net mikeoc (at) austarnet (dot) com (dot) au majilok (at) gmail (dot) com [Please ZIP any attachments, other than GIF/JPG or plain-text] If you are missing a response from me - check Tweed Heads WX status at: http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR663.loop.shtml#skip -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG ===