From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 00:01:35 EST-10EDT,10,1,0,7200,4,1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 2020 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Tuesday 07 December 2010 Number 2020 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 Re: Inbox size : Peter Moylan 2 Re: Spam : Voytek Eymont" 3 Re: Spam : Peter L Allen" 4 Re: Spam : talldad at kepl dot com dot au 5 Re: Inbox size : talldad at kepl dot com dot au **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2010 00:15:37 +1100 From: Peter Moylan Subject: Re: Inbox size Peter Moylan wrote: > On 6/12/2010 9:36 PM, Alan Duval wrote: >> Hi. >> >> I was alarmed recently to find that the partition that I have ECS on >> was running out of space. My Inbox looks to be the problem. >> I have culled it to 142 messages but that equals 1,723,448 bytes >> which is astounding. >> How could I move Inbox from my ECS partition where Thunderbird is >> installed to a data partition and still have it recognized by >> Thunderbird? >> If this is not possible the only thing I can think of is to copy all >> messages that I require and paste them in my word processor and save >> them that way. >> What do you people do? > > I would never put my own files and applications on a system partition, > and I was a little shocked to see that that was the default chosen by > the eCS 2.0 installer; I thought that only Windows installers did > that. It was a nuisance having to move my Mozilla profiles to the > place where I normally keep them (D:\Mozprofiles). The profile path is > specified by two environment variables in CONFIG.SYS. I'm on a Windows > machine at present so I can't check the exact names, but they're > something like MOZPROFILES and MOZPLUGINPATH. > > Followup: here's the relevant line from my CONFIG.SYS. SET MOZILLA_HOME=D:\MOZPROFILES Here's the partial tree that that refers to: D:\ MOZPROFILES Mozilla NVU PLUGINS Signatures Thunderbird Profiles tfr25xtx.default (and so on) -- Peter Moylan peter at pmoylan dot org http://www.pmoylan dot org -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 10:40:16 +1100 (EST) From: "Voytek Eymont" Subject: Re: Spam > On 6/12/2010 9:47 PM, Alan Duval wrote: > Yes, I'm being massively mailbombed with an "Easy way to make money" > message. Presumably the spam filters will eventually catch up with this, I'm getting maybe 2 a day of these, since... last 10 days ? > although I have to say I'm not impressed by the learning ability of the > Thunderbird spam filter. I can't find any way to adjust its "ageing" > behaviour - I presume that any adaptive filter would include such a thing - > to ensure that the filtering is not dominated by the spam that was about > when the program was first installed. I think mail defences should be at the perimter, we block most of such at the mail server, isn't it somewhat futile doing it at the client end ? from mail server's log: blocked using bl.spamcop dot net (total: 19) blocked using dbl.spamhaus dot org (total: 14) blocked using dsn.rfc-ignorant dot org (total: 10) blocked using psbl.surriel dot com (total: 107) blocked using zen.spamhaus dot org (total: 2360) Client host rejected: sender address does not match client hostname (total: 89) Helo command rejected: Don't use my own IP address (total: 40) Helo command rejected: Don't use non RFC 2821 compliant: EHLO/HELO must be a domain or an address-literal (IP enclosed in []) - not a naked IP. (total: 91) Helo command rejected: Invalid name (total: 21) Helo command rejected: need fully-qualified hostname (total: 1134) Helo command rejected: You are not in sbt dot net dot au (total: 46) Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual mailbox table (total: 1499) -- Voytek -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2010 10:45:24 +1000 (EST) From: "Peter L Allen" Subject: Re: Spam More a ramp up over the last couple of months - say 6 to 8 per day. Bear in mind the GFC has destroyed the financial future of millions and they'll be looking to make a buck somewhere. On Mon, 06 Dec 2010 22:18:58 +1100, Peter Moylan wrote: >On 6/12/2010 9:47 PM, Alan Duval wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Are you all getting a great increase in spam lately? >> I hadn't been getting much until the last few weeks but now the >> quantity has gone up dramatically. >> > >Yes, I'm being massively mailbombed with an "Easy way to make money" >message. Presumably the spam filters will eventually catch up with this, >although I have to say I'm not impressed by the learning ability of the >Thunderbird spam filter. I can't find any way to adjust its "ageing" >behaviour - I presume that any adaptive filter would include such a >thing - to ensure that the filtering is not dominated by the spam that >was about when the program was first installed. > >-- >Peter Moylan peter at pmoylan dot org > http://www.pmoylan dot org > >-------------------------------------------------- > > http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === > > -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 22:25:12 +1100 From: talldad at kepl dot com dot au Subject: Re: Spam > Hi, > > Are you all getting a great increase in spam lately? > I hadn't been getting much until the last few weeks but now the quantity > has gone up dramatically. > > Regards, > > Alan Duval Yes, definitely Alan. Both at work using T-Bird and here using PM-Mail. -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 22:28:59 +1100 From: talldad at kepl dot com dot au Subject: Re: Inbox size > On 6/12/2010 9:36 PM, Alan Duval wrote: > I would never put my own files and applications on a system partition, > and I was a little shocked to see that that was the default chosen by > the eCS 2.0 installer; I thought that only Windows installers did that. > It was a nuisance having to move my Mozilla profiles to the place where > I normally keep them (D:\Mozprofiles). The profile path is specified by > two environment variables in CONFIG.SYS. I'm on a Windows machine at > present so I can't check the exact names, but they're something like > MOZPROFILES and MOZPLUGINPATH. > > (I still have old versions of Firefox and Thunderbird, put there without > my permission, on drive C:. One of these days I should seek out and > destroy everything in directories like C:\var, C:\programs, etc.) > > So exit from Thunderbird and Firefox, copy your existing profile > directories to another drive, and find and alter the appropriate lines > in CONFIG.SYS. Then you'll need to reboot. Check that it worked, and > then delete the old directories. > > But first ... in Thunderbird, choose the menu entry File/Compact > Folders. That should save you a lot of disk space. > Good suggestions, Peter. I would also recommend creating other folders and sub-folders AWAY from Inbox. I try to keep my Inbox down to about a half-dozen or so of un-filed messages which I am still dealing with. Regards John A -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG