From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 00:00:35 EST-10EDT,10,1,0,7200,4,1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1928 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Monday 08 February 2010 Number 1928 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 Re: command line mp3 playback ? : Ed Durrant 2 Re: External drive problem : Alan Duval 3 Re: External drive problem : Chuck McKinnis 4 Re: External drive problem : Ed Durrant 5 Re: External drive problem : Alan Duval **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 06:48:53 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: command line mp3 playback ? Voytek Eymont wrote: > what can I use to command line playback of mp3 ? > > I want to set up my voice messages to convert from PMFax wav to mp3 and > sent to me as emails > > > Z player or mplayer operate as commandline players. -- Cheers/2 Ed eComStationAustralia podcast http://eComStationAustralia.podbean dot com or iTunes -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 09:30:02 +1100 From: Alan Duval Subject: Re: External drive problem Ed Durrant wrote: Hi Alan, > > I wonder if part of the problem was that you had the FAT32 > partition not at the beginning ? I know FAT32 can be a problem if it > starts after cylinder 1024 some times. Since you now used NTFS in > place of FAT32, if that was the problem its now gone away. > > As for cloning partitions from SATA to IDE - if it's a data partition > it wont be a problem. If its an eCS boot partition, just make sure you > have the correct disk drivers loaded before you clone (i.e. the latest > Dani drivers) - if it's a Windows partition you are cloning, it's > security checks to see you aren't stealing windows may cause a problem. Hi Ed, It looks like you are right. If I copy to the FAT32 partitions, the next time I plug in the external hard drive it can't be seen. It seems like the only way it is consistently seen is if I format it as a primary NTFS partition but of course I then can't copy to it from eCS and can only read or copy from it. I have tried to make a primary HPFS on it but the screen doesn't get past the flashing cursor after I enter the commands. WIN XP won't allow formatting it as a primary partition with the FAT32 file system. Looks like the external hard drive is rather useless for eCS. Regards, Alan -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 15:44:58 -0700 From: Chuck McKinnis Subject: Re: External drive problem Alan Duval wrote: > Ed Durrant wrote: > > Hi Alan, >> >> I wonder if part of the problem was that you had the FAT32 >> partition not at the beginning ? I know FAT32 can be a problem if it >> starts after cylinder 1024 some times. Since you now used NTFS in >> place of FAT32, if that was the problem its now gone away. >> >> As for cloning partitions from SATA to IDE - if it's a data partition >> it wont be a problem. If its an eCS boot partition, just make sure you >> have the correct disk drivers loaded before you clone (i.e. the latest >> Dani drivers) - if it's a Windows partition you are cloning, it's >> security checks to see you aren't stealing windows may cause a problem. > Hi Ed, > > It looks like you are right. If I copy to the FAT32 partitions, the next > time I plug in the external hard drive it can't be seen. It seems like > the only way it is consistently seen is if I format it as a primary NTFS > partition but of course I then can't copy to it from eCS and can only > read or copy from it. I have tried to make a primary HPFS on it but the > screen doesn't get past the flashing cursor after I enter the commands. > WIN XP won't allow formatting it as a primary partition with the FAT32 > file system. Looks like the external hard drive is rather useless for eCS. > > Regards, > > Alan You may find that things work better if you use DFSee and make all of the partitions primary. This will limit you to 4 partitions, but I don't see that as a real problem. Make sure that it is set up with LVM information. -- Chuck McKinnis Sandia Park, NM http://www.7cities dot net/~mckinnis/ Depart from evil, and do good; seek peace, and pursue it. Psalm 34:14 -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 18:00:05 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: External drive problem Alan Duval wrote: > Ed Durrant wrote: > > Hi Alan, >> >> I wonder if part of the problem was that you had the FAT32 >> partition not at the beginning ? I know FAT32 can be a problem if it >> starts after cylinder 1024 some times. Since you now used NTFS in >> place of FAT32, if that was the problem its now gone away. >> >> As for cloning partitions from SATA to IDE - if it's a data partition >> it wont be a problem. If its an eCS boot partition, just make sure >> you have the correct disk drivers loaded before you clone (i.e. the >> latest Dani drivers) - if it's a Windows partition you are cloning, >> it's security checks to see you aren't stealing windows may cause a >> problem. > Hi Ed, > > It looks like you are right. If I copy to the FAT32 partitions, the > next time I plug in the external hard drive it can't be seen. It seems > like the only way it is consistently seen is if I format it as a > primary NTFS partition but of course I then can't copy to it from eCS > and can only read or copy from it. I have tried to make a primary HPFS > on it but the screen doesn't get past the flashing cursor after I > enter the commands. WIN XP won't allow formatting it as a primary > partition with the FAT32 file system. Looks like the external hard > drive is rather useless for eCS. > > Regards, > > Alan > Actually this is not a fault of OS/2 (or eComStation) per-SE - it's the FAT32 IFS - which is an add-on to the OS from a third party. If that could be fixed (I wonder if there's a netdrive FAT32 plugin - that product seems much better in all file systems that it supports) the problem would go away. For now, the only solution I see for your requirement with the current software is to make the first partition on your external drive FAT32. -- Cheers/2 Ed eComStationAustralia podcast http://eComStationAustralia.podbean dot com or iTunes -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:06:58 +1100 From: Alan Duval Subject: Re: External drive problem Ed Durrant wrote: > Alan Duval wrote: >> Ed Durrant wrote: >> >> Hi Alan, >>> >>> I wonder if part of the problem was that you had the FAT32 >>> partition not at the beginning ? I know FAT32 can be a problem if it >>> starts after cylinder 1024 some times. Since you now used NTFS in >>> place of FAT32, if that was the problem its now gone away. >>> >>> As for cloning partitions from SATA to IDE - if it's a data >>> partition it wont be a problem. If its an eCS boot partition, just >>> make sure you have the correct disk drivers loaded before you clone >>> (i.e. the latest Dani drivers) - if it's a Windows partition you are >>> cloning, it's security checks to see you aren't stealing windows may >>> cause a problem. >> Hi Ed, >> >> It looks like you are right. If I copy to the FAT32 partitions, the >> next time I plug in the external hard drive it can't be seen. It >> seems like the only way it is consistently seen is if I format it as >> a primary NTFS partition but of course I then can't copy to it from >> eCS and can only read or copy from it. I have tried to make a primary >> HPFS on it but the screen doesn't get past the flashing cursor after >> I enter the commands. WIN XP won't allow formatting it as a primary >> partition with the FAT32 file system. Looks like the external hard >> drive is rather useless for eCS. >> >> Regards, >> >> Alan >> > Actually this is not a fault of OS/2 (or eComStation) per-SE - it's > the FAT32 IFS - which is an add-on to the OS from a third party. If > that could be fixed (I wonder if there's a netdrive FAT32 plugin - > that product seems much better in all file systems that it supports) > the problem would go away. > > For now, the only solution I see for your requirement with the > current software is to make the first partition on your external drive > FAT32. I tried Chuck's suggestion. Deleted all partitions on the external drive with DFSee then made a primary partition for HPFS with DFSee, then went to a command line after rebooting and reattaching the external drive and tried to format the partition with HPFS via a command line but it doesn't get past 0% no matter how long I wait. Hence I rebooted with GParted in the CD/DVD drive and used it to delete the partition then made three primary 10GB partitions. The first for NTFS and the next 2 for FAT32. Rebooted to WIN XP and used WIN XP to format the partitions as described. Then rebooted to eCS, attached the external drive and only the first partition (NTFS) was seen. Went to LVM and assigned drive letters to the 2 FAT32 partitions and eCS could then see all 3. Ejected the External drive, rebooted and found my MBR had been affected so that Grub wasn't detected to allow dual booting and the system just booted to eCS. Plugged in the external drive and it wasn't seen. Used DFSee to restore the MBR from an image, unplugged the external HD and rebooted to eCS then plugged in the external HD and all 3 partitions were again seen. Then rebooted without ejecting the external HD and unplugged it as soon as the booting started. Once eCS was running I plugged in the External HD and the 3 partitions were seen. So it looks like I should never eject the external drive and only unplug it when the PC has stopped. Regards, Alan -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG ===