From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 00:00:13 EST-10EDT,10,1,0,7200,4,1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1965 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Thursday 10 June 2010 Number 1965 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 Re: How to install IBM Works? : Peter Moylan 1 Re: How to install IBM Works? : Wayne **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 00:15:39 +1000 From: Peter Moylan Subject: Re: How to install IBM Works? Nicholas Lysaght wrote: > >> I now know why I lost all my data. The IBM Installer for IBM Works >> doesn't give you a choice of which partition to put it on, so it >> ends up on drive C:, which is the one place you should never put >> personal files. (Because you'll lose them on a system upgrade. I >> don't put application files there either.) I thought that Microsoft >> was the only group stupid enough to put "My Documents" on C:, but >> apparently someone in IBM was also that stupid. I might try some >> experimenting to see whether I can move it. > > Again, the same would go for VT. I think this was a hangover from the > early days of Warp3, where everything went on the one drive (like > windows). That's not a worry for me, as I can access my relevant > IBMWorks file on another non-boot partition, which I back up. I wonder whether Serenity and/or IBM know how popular IBM Works is. I don't use the "main" part of IBM Works at all (spreadsheet, word processor, etc.) because OpenOffice is better. On the other hand, its "PIM" applications (calendar, appointments, to-do list, etc.) are far better than any competing application I've tried. I suspect that this is an under-appreciated aspect of OS/2 that doesn't get enough publicity. I'm pleased to see that you managed to install IBM Works on a non-boot partition. I still have the intention of doing that. The eCS 2.0 installer did allow me to specify D:\PROGRAMS as the place to install applications, but a couple of applications failed to install because C:\PROGRAMS did not exist. Why did so many programmers think that everything had to go on drive C:? Even in the Warp 3 days I was conscious of the fact that we should use separate partitions for "system" and "user". Indeed, in the Warp 3 days /nothing/ went on drive C: - we were all conscious that drive C: had to be reserved for Microsoft, which didn't understand any other drive letter. By now we understand that there's no point in reserving anything for Microsoft, so OS/2 goes back on drive C:. But only the operating system. Not the applications, not the user data. They belong on other drives. My present hard drive has 40 GB. That's partitioned into 2 GB for OS/2, and 36 GB for everything else. (If the arithmetic doesn't add up, blame the drive manufacturers whose definition of "gigabyte" is different from everyone else's.) In the past I tended to divide my drives into 2 GB partitions. Now I have only a single 2 GB partition for the operating system, and leave the rest for everything else. JFS has made a big difference for me. By the way, letting C: be a bootable JFS partition has meant, for me, that eCS 2.0 is a lot faster than eCS 1.2. (My laptop, running Windows 7, follows different rules. There, it seems that then entire 40GB is needed for the OS, and if any applications can fit into that space then that's a bonus. No wonder external hard drives are selling so well.) It's many years since I tried VoiceType. In the distant past I dumped it because I couldn't do a good American accent. Given that I once lived in the USA for a year, during which time I learnt to speak Northern Californian, I should probably try it again. It's true that Florida English, which I think is what was VT was programmed to recognise, is noticeably different from Californian, but I might be able to train myself to imitate it. My past experience says that there is no way to train VT to understand Australian English. >> I'm now about to start phoning around to find out when my >> appointments are. > > All the best. :-) By now I have tracked down all the appointments I know about. (Including one for tomorrow, which I thought was next week, so it's a good thing I started checking today.) The only uncertain ones are the ones I don't know about, and I'll just have to give up on those. Meanwhile, I still have to program my grandchildrens' birthdays into IBM Works. The birthdays of my children and my brothers and sisters are, of course, less urgent. -- Peter Moylan peter at pmoylan dot org http://www.pmoylan dot org -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 04:50:42 +0930 From: Wayne Subject: Re: How to install IBM Works? ** Reply to note from Peter Moylan Thu, 10 Jun 2010 00:15:39 +1000 >> I now know why I lost all my data. The IBM Installer for IBM Works >> doesn't give you a choice of which partition to put it on, so it >> ends up on drive C:, which is the one place you should never put >> personal files. (Because you'll lose them on a system upgrade. I >> don't put application files there either.) I thought that Microsoft >> was the only group stupid enough to put "My Documents" on C:, but >> apparently someone in IBM was also that stupid. I might try some >> experimenting to see whether I can move it. Hi Peter You can move the IBMWORKS dir anywhere you want, then change config.sys to suit. It may also be necessary to run IBMWDESK.CMD (somewhere in IBMWORKS dir) to update desktop icons. HTH Wayne -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG ===