From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 00:01:30 EST-10EDT,10,1,0,7200,4,1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1967 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Monday 14 June 2010 Number 1967 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 Re: CUPS problem : Ed Durrant 2 Re: CUPS problem : Peter Moylan 3 Laser printers : Alan Duval 4 Re: Laser printers : Voytek Eymont 5 Re: Laser printers : Ed Durrant 6 Re: CUPS problem : Paul Smedley 7 Re: Laser printers : Alan Duval 8 Re: Laser printers : Ian Manners" 9 Re: Laser printers : madodel 10 Re: Laser printers : John Angelico" 11 CUPS Partial success : Alan Duval 12 Re: Laser printers : Chuck McKinnis 13 Re: Laser printers : Ed Durrant 14 Re: Laser printers : Ian Manners" 15 Re: Laser printers : Peter Moylan 16 Re: Laser printers : Paul Smedley **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 08:35:04 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: CUPS problem Alan Duval wrote: > Decided to buy a HP Deskjet D2660 as I wasn't getting anywhere with > the hp psc 1315 and it started playing up. After research I found that > HPLIP supports the mode l bought. > > I then uninstalled CUPS with Warpin and downloaded the CUPS warpin > file again and reinstalled it plus the HPLIP drivers. Then installed > the printer from CUPS from my browser and tried to print a test page > but again failed with the CUPS page showing the following: > > *HPd2660 "/cups/lib/cups/filter/hpcups.exe failed"* > > *Description:* HP Deskjet D2660 > *Location:* Local > *Printer Driver:* HP Deskjet d2600 Series, hpcups 3.9.12.29 > *Printer State:* idle, accepting jobs, published. > *Device URI:* usb://HP/Deskjet%20D2600%20series?serial=CN9CFDF22K05C9 > > I used the option to choose the *.ppd file which I found in > C:\cups\share\ppd\HP folder. > I note that these ppd files are really *.ppd.gz files so do I need > gunzip somewhere to unzip them or does the CUPS program have this > ability? > > One other thing I noticed is that the CUPS warpin program has put the > eCUPS Daemon program folder in my startup folder and its properties > folder shows the path and file name as 'cmd.exe' and the parameters > as " /c detach C:\cups\sbin\cupsd.exe " . Does that automatically > start cupsd ? > > I don't know where I can go. As far as I know I've followed the > instructions fully but to no avail. > I installed the new printer in Ubuntu and WIN XP and it's working well > in both but eCS is my main OS and I no longer have a printer that > works with it. > > I'd be grateful for any help. > > Regards, > > Alan Duval I don't like the WPI installer, I have never been able to get it to work correctly (others say they have, so it's something with my system). I have install the individual CUPS packages on several occasions and got printers working correctly however. http://svn dot netlabs dot org/ecups/wiki/HowTo -- Cheers/eCS2.0 Ed Please checkout my podcasts at: http://eComStationAustralia.podbean dot com or via iTunes To subscribe - click this: http://eComStationAustralia.podbean dot com/feed -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 08:42:27 +1000 From: Peter Moylan Subject: Re: CUPS problem Alan Duval wrote: > One other thing I noticed is that the CUPS warpin program has put the > eCUPS Daemon program folder in my startup folder and its properties > folder shows the path and file name as 'cmd.exe' and the parameters > as " /c detach C:\cups\sbin\cupsd.exe " . Does that automatically > start cupsd ? I can't answer your main question - CUPS took me a while to get working - but I can confirm that that part is correct. The "detach" command starts cupsd as a daemon, i.e. it runs it but without creating a keyboard or screen interface. -- Peter Moylan peter at pmoylan dot org http://www.pmoylan dot org -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 10:40:47 +1000 From: Alan Duval Subject: Laser printers Is there a laser printer that has drivers for eCS 2.0? I remember an Email stating that Kyocera had drivers for os/2 but that was quite a while ago. Regards, Alan Duval -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 9:57:51 +1000 From: Voytek Eymont Subject: Re: Laser printers HP PCL? Postscript? that's aways a safe bet © Voytek Eymont ___ Sent from my Palm with SnapperMail ™® www.snappermail dot com ..... Original Message ....... On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 10:40:47 +1000 "Alan Duval" wrote: >Is there a laser printer that has drivers for eCS 2.0? >I remember an Email stating that Kyocera had drivers for os/2 but that >was quite a while ago. > >Regards, > >Alan Duval >-------------------------------------------------- > > http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 10:43:16 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Laser printers I'm happy with my Brother HL-2040, which you can probably still get for a cheap price (sub $100) if you shop around. It has a real printer controller (i.e. it's not a "winprinter"), it uses the HP laserjet protocol (PCL) and driver - I select the HL-1250 printer within the IBM Laserjet native OS/2 driver - just remember to set job properties / options to no performance options and system fonts only. I would hope that later Brother laser printer will still work, but I cannot give you the model number of one that I know to work. Ed. Voytek Eymont wrote: > HP PCL? > Postscript? > that's aways a safe bet > > © Voytek Eymont > ___ > Sent from my Palm with SnapperMail ™® > www.snappermail dot com > > ..... Original Message ....... > On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 10:40:47 +1000 "Alan Duval" wrote: > >> Is there a laser printer that has drivers for eCS 2.0? >> I remember an Email stating that Kyocera had drivers for os/2 but that >> was quite a while ago. >> >> Regards, >> >> Alan Duval >> -------------------------------------------------- >> >> http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG >=== >> > > -------------------------------------------------- > > http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG > -- Cheers/eCS2.0 Ed Please checkout my podcasts at: http://eComStationAustralia.podbean dot com or via iTunes To subscribe - click this: http://eComStationAustralia.podbean dot com/feed -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 09:53:33 +0845 From: Paul Smedley Subject: Re: CUPS problem Hi Alan, Alan Duval wrote: > *HPd2660 "/cups/lib/cups/filter/hpcups.exe failed"* Per my previous advice, hpcups requires gcc444.dll - which is available from http://download.smedley.info/gcc444.zip Cheers, Paul -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 7 ==========================** Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 12:52:10 +1000 From: Alan Duval Subject: Re: Laser printers Ed Durrant wrote: > I'm happy with my Brother HL-2040, which you can probably still get > for a cheap price (sub $100) if you shop around. It has a real printer > controller (i.e. it's not a "winprinter"), it uses the HP laserjet > protocol (PCL) and driver - I select the HL-1250 printer within the > IBM Laserjet native OS/2 driver - just remember to set job properties > / options to no performance options and system fonts only. > > I would hope that later Brother laser printer will still work, but I > cannot give you the model number of one that I know to work. > > Ed. > Can't find any Brother HL-2040 laser printers on the internet. Officeworks are selling a Brother HL-2142 printer for $99 but specifications don't mention psc. In the printing section it says GDI emulation. They have a Fuji Xerox Phaser 3125/N laser printer for $159 and specifications say, Print functions: PDL PCL6, Postscript 3 compatible. Would that work with eCS 2.0? Regards, Alan -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 8 ==========================** Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 12:01:10 +1000 (EST) From: "Ian Manners" Subject: Re: Laser printers >I'm happy with my Brother HL-2040, which you can probably still get for >a cheap price (sub $100) if you shop around. It has a real printer My Brother HL-5040 works well, picked it up off the street 2 years ago with a minor paper jam. The Brother HL-5040's driver is called 'LASER.Brother HL-5040' in the last lot of IBM drivers (30.827). I've also used this driver for more recent Brother Lasers with PCL6 Enhanced though I've noticed the driver doesnt work if you select 'Draft Mode (EconoMode)' with the recent Brother Lasers. Brother HL 2140 Mono Laser is a current model which also works well. Cheers Ian Manners http://www.os2site dot com/ -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG **= Email 9 ==========================** Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 23:10:49 -0400 From: madodel Subject: Re: Laser printers Alan Duval wrote: > Ed Durrant wrote: >> I'm happy with my Brother HL-2040, which you can probably still get >> for a cheap price (sub $100) if you shop around. It has a real printer >> controller (i.e. it's not a "winprinter"), it uses the HP laserjet >> protocol (PCL) and driver - I select the HL-1250 printer within the >> IBM Laserjet native OS/2 driver - just remember to set job properties >> / options to no performance options and system fonts only. >> >> I would hope that later Brother laser printer will still work, but I >> cannot give you the model number of one that I know to work. >> >> Ed. >> > Can't find any Brother HL-2040 laser printers on the internet. > Officeworks are selling a Brother HL-2142 printer for $99 but > specifications don't mention psc. In the printing section it says GDI > emulation. GDI means windoze only. > They have a Fuji Xerox Phaser 3125/N laser printer for $159 and > specifications say, Print functions: PDL PCL6, Postscript 3 compatible. > Would that work with eCS 2.0? PCL6 is laserjet emulation, so it should work with a similar featured LaserJet driver. Postscript 3, for me anyway, is the best, since you can use a printer specific PPD file to add that model to the OS/2 Postscript driver so it should support most if not all of the printers features. At least that is the case with my Brother MFC-9840CDW printer. Mark -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 10 ==========================** Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:25:10 +1000 (AEST) From: "John Angelico" Subject: Re: Laser printers On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 23:10:49 -0400 madodel wrote: > > >PCL6 is laserjet emulation, so it should work with a similar featured >LaserJet driver. Postscript 3, for me anyway, is the best, since you can >use a printer specific PPD file to add that model to the OS/2 Postscript >driver so it should support most if not all of the printers features. At >least that is the case with my Brother MFC-9840CDW printer. > That sounds like good news, Mark. I understand that PPD files are text and can be extracted from elsewherre (like a Windoze system) but is the process of "adding that model to the OS/2 Postscipt driver" trivial or difficult for a home user? Best regards John Angelico OS/2 Zealot Melbourne Victoria, AUSTRALIA Email: talldad at kepl dot com dot au ------------------------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 11 ==========================** Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:49:26 +1000 From: Alan Duval Subject: CUPS Partial success AS test print was failing with the notice HPd2660 "/cups/lib/cups/filter/hpcups.exe failed I decided to go to the command line and type "HPd2660 "/cups/lib/cups/filter/hpcups" Error line came up "Can't find GCC434.dll" So I downloaded it and installed it. Then tried test print and it printed 1/2 page then stopped. After several restarts and further attempts to print the test page with partial success I deleted all jobs restarted and was able to print the test page. Then tried printing from the command line with Paul's suggestion \cups\bin\lpr -P HPd2660 C:config.sys Part of a page is printed then the printing stops and eventually flashing lights come on indicating both inkwells need changing. However I can go to Ubuntu and print a full page so the inkwells don't need changing. Restarted and the printer started printing (probably the rest of config.sys) but stopped after a few lines. It's all very odd. Alan -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 12 ==========================** Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 22:02:20 -0600 From: Chuck McKinnis Subject: Re: Laser printers On 6/13/2010 9:25 PM, John Angelico wrote: > On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 23:10:49 -0400 madodel wrote: >> >> >> PCL6 is laserjet emulation, so it should work with a similar featured >> LaserJet driver. Postscript 3, for me anyway, is the best, since you can >> use a printer specific PPD file to add that model to the OS/2 Postscript >> driver so it should support most if not all of the printers features. At >> least that is the case with my Brother MFC-9840CDW printer. >> > > That sounds like good news, Mark. > > I understand that PPD files are text and can be extracted from elsewherre > (like a Windoze system) but is the process of "adding that model to the > OS/2 Postscipt driver" trivial or difficult for a home user? > > Best regards > John Angelico > OS/2 Zealot > Melbourne Victoria, AUSTRALIA > Email: talldad at kepl dot com dot au The addition of PPD files is pretty trivial. The IBM Postscript package has a utility to do the add. If you have eCS, it ships with a GUI that automates the import. I usually get my PPD files from the manufacturers Linux support downloads, although I have used the Windows XP ones. I am not currently running any printer (I have a Lexmark E260dn and an HP 2550 Color LaserJet) that has drivers supplied in the IBM Postscript package. Both are running fine with mported PPD files. I am a supervisor for the AARP Tax-Aide program (freebie income tax filing for the elderly and low income). We use both Brother and HP printers. I have imported PPD files for both and printed to them with eCS. My church has a Xerox copier with RJ45 and USB ports. I imported its PPD file to eCS and printed away. My personal preference is Lexmark, Brother, and HP (I don't feel that HP printers are of the same quality that they used to be). I have not really studied it, but I suspect that the Brother is the lowest cost when you consider toner. -- Chuck McKinnis Sandia Park, NM http://www.7cities dot net/~mckinnis/ The angel of the Lord encampeth round about them that fear him, and delivereth them. Psalm 34:7 -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 13 ==========================** Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:14:11 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Laser printers Alan Duval wrote: > Ed Durrant wrote: >> I'm happy with my Brother HL-2040, which you can probably still get >> for a cheap price (sub $100) if you shop around. It has a real >> printer controller (i.e. it's not a "winprinter"), it uses the HP >> laserjet protocol (PCL) and driver - I select the HL-1250 printer >> within the IBM Laserjet native OS/2 driver - just remember to set job >> properties / options to no performance options and system fonts only. >> >> I would hope that later Brother laser printer will still work, but I >> cannot give you the model number of one that I know to work. >> >> Ed. >> > Can't find any Brother HL-2040 laser printers on the internet. > Officeworks are selling a Brother HL-2142 printer for $99 but > specifications don't mention psc. In the printing section it says > GDI emulation. > They have a Fuji Xerox Phaser 3125/N laser printer for $159 and > specifications say, Print functions: PDL PCL6, Postscript 3 compatible. > Would that work with eCS 2.0? > > Regards, > > Alan > - GDI is another name for WinPrinter - don't buy this one. Ian suggested some more Brother models in his response, perhaps you can find one of those. -- Cheers/eCS2.0 Ed Please checkout my podcasts at: http://eComStationAustralia.podbean dot com or via iTunes To subscribe - click this: http://eComStationAustralia.podbean dot com/feed -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 14 ==========================** Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:45:32 +1000 (EST) From: "Ian Manners" Subject: Re: Laser printers Hi Ed/Alan, >GDI is another name for WinPrinter - don't buy this one. Ian suggested >some more Brother models in his response, perhaps you can find one of those. I just went looking to see if the HL 2140 is still available, and I note on the City Software website it is BUT it says there that it has Processor 181 MHz RAM Installed ( Max ) 8 MB Language Simulation Windows GDI driver either they changed it, or it is not a true Windows GDI printer, which seems to defeat the purpose of WinGDI, I think the manual would need to be downloaded and checked. Also note it has Linux and Mac in the System Requirements. Cheers Ian Manners http://www.os2site dot com/ -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG **= Email 15 ==========================** Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 17:28:18 +1000 From: Peter Moylan Subject: Re: Laser printers madodel wrote: > Alan Duval wrote: >> Ed Durrant wrote: >>> I'm happy with my Brother HL-2040, which you can probably still >>> get for a cheap price (sub $100) if you shop around. It has a >>> real printer controller (i.e. it's not a "winprinter"), it uses >>> the HP laserjet protocol (PCL) and driver - I select the HL-1250 >>> printer within the IBM Laserjet native OS/2 driver - just >>> remember to set job properties / options to no performance >>> options and system fonts only. >>> >>> I would hope that later Brother laser printer will still work, >>> but I cannot give you the model number of one that I know to >>> work. >>> >> Can't find any Brother HL-2040 laser printers on the internet. >> Officeworks are selling a Brother HL-2142 printer for $99 but >> specifications don't mention psc. In the printing section it says >> GDI emulation. > > GDI means windoze only. > >> They have a Fuji Xerox Phaser 3125/N laser printer for $159 and >> specifications say, Print functions: PDL PCL6, Postscript 3 >> compatible. Would that work with eCS 2.0? > > PCL6 is laserjet emulation, so it should work with a similar featured > LaserJet driver. Postscript 3, for me anyway, is the best, since you > can use a printer specific PPD file to add that model to the OS/2 > Postscript driver so it should support most if not all of the > printers features. At least that is the case with my Brother > MFC-9840CDW printer. I've just received the latest Officeworks junk mail, and now they're advertising a Brother HL-2150N mono laser printer (having both USB and ethernet interfaces) for $149. The specifications on the Brother web site say "PCL emulation". Should I assume that this doesn't necessarily mean Postscript 3 compatible? I would imagine that if it was Postscript 3 compatible then this would be mentioned in the specifications. It does claim to be Linux compatible. Ah, I think I just got my answer. One vendor's web site lists HL-2150N with PCL6, and then lists a more expensive model (HL-5340d) with both PCL6 and Postscript 3. OK, scrap the 2150N. A more attractive-looking option is a Samsung CLP315 colour laser printer. The interface is called SPL-C, which appears to stand for something like "Samsung Printer Language", and I'm suspicious because a Google search found one place that wrote this as "SPL-C (host-based printing)". Wipe Samsung as a supplier, then. Most of the attractive deals for laser printers appear to be for multifunction machines. I imagine, however, that these would be wasted in OS/2 - even if printing worked, scanning probably wouldn't. I'm rapidly reaching the conclusion that the people doing the heavy advertising (Officeworks, Post Office, KMart, Dick Smith, etc.) carry only the cheap-and-nasty versions designed for the Windows users, and that the right way to proceed is to find a suitable model and then shop on-line for a good price. It'll probably mean having to spend a couple of hundred dollars extra, but that's true for most electrical goods when you want quality rather than junk. (Last winter I paid double the typical price for an electric blanket. Sure, it was expensive, but it was NOT MADE IN CHINA, which means that it's likely to keep working even after the warranty runs out. I've thrown away too many faulty products to be caught by the made-in-China trap again. Of course it's difficult to find retailers who will sell you non-Chinese products, but they're available if you search hard enough.) -- Peter Moylan peter at pmoylan dot org http://www.pmoylan dot org -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 16 ==========================** Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 19:00:23 +0845 From: Paul Smedley Subject: Re: Laser printers Hi Peter, Peter Moylan wrote: > A more attractive-looking option is a Samsung CLP315 colour laser > printer. The interface is called SPL-C, which appears to stand for > something like "Samsung Printer Language", and I'm suspicious because a > Google search found one place that wrote this as "SPL-C (host-based > printing)". Wipe Samsung as a supplier, then. Some Samsung printers have open source drivers and can work with Cups & OS/2. For eg I have a CLP-300N here that works ok using Splix and Cups. Cheers, Paul -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG ===