From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 00:00:41 EST-10EDT,10,1,0,7200,4,1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1952 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Monday 17 May 2010 Number 1952 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 OpenOffice 3.1 : Peter Moylan 1 Re: OpenOffice 3.1 : Ed Durrant 2 Re: OpenOffice 3.1 : Ed Durrant 2 Re: Strange PC : Dennis Nolan 3 Re: Strange PC : Alan Duval 3 Re: Strange PC : Alan Duval 4 Re: Strange PC : Alan Duval **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 02:11:00 +1000 From: Peter Moylan Subject: OpenOffice 3.1 Has anybody here succeeded in getting OpenOffice 3.1 to work? I've just downloaded it from MenSys (I've paid for it) but I can't find any way to use it. If I click on a .odt file, I get the message "Support Agreement for OpenOffice dot org ..." etc. ... i.e. it wants the support agreement that I've already paid for. If instead I right-click and choose "Open as Text Document", I get OpenOffice 2.4, after all the initial crap about recovering the documents on CDs that I no longer have access to. Obviously, the OpenOffice installation has not included the WPS integration that we get with other OS/2 programs. The solution, obviously, is to go directly into the the D:\Apps\OpenOffice dot org.3 directory, and ignore the readme.txt - it's all in Italian, which I can understand only imperfectly - and execute the program\swriter.exe program. It didn't work, though. I got a message saying "Program cannot be started. Language could not be determined". Does anyone know how to tell the program that I speak English? -- Peter Moylan peter at pmoylan dot org http://www.pmoylan dot org -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 06:44:49 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: OpenOffice 3.1 Peter Moylan wrote: > Has anybody here succeeded in getting OpenOffice 3.1 to work? I've just > downloaded it from MenSys (I've paid for it) but I can't find any way to > use it. If I click on a .odt file, I get the message "Support Agreement > for OpenOffice dot org ..." etc. ... i.e. it wants the support agreement > that I've already paid for. If instead I right-click and choose "Open as > Text Document", I get OpenOffice 2.4, after all the initial crap about > recovering the documents on CDs that I no longer have access to. > Obviously, the OpenOffice installation has not included the WPS > integration that we get with other OS/2 programs. > > The solution, obviously, is to go directly into the the > D:\Apps\OpenOffice dot org.3 directory, and ignore the readme.txt - it's all > in Italian, which I can understand only imperfectly - and execute the > program\swriter.exe program. It didn't work, though. I got a message > saying "Program cannot be started. Language could not be determined". > > Does anyone know how to tell the program that I speak English? > > I also experienced that "give me your registration key" bug - if I rememeber correctly it was because I hadn't installed a font package. This was on a system with OOo/2 v 2 also installed on it. When I de-installed (through Warpin) the OOo/2 v 3 install, installed the Innotek font package and then re-installed the OOo/2 v3 wpi package all was OK. Oh yes and the latest Warpin version was also needed if I remember correctly. I currently have both OOo/2 v2 and v3 on my system with v3 being the default to open OO files. -- Cheers/2 Ed Please checkout my podcasts at: http://eComStationAustralia.podbean dot com or via iTunes To subscribe - click this: http://eComStationAustralia.podbean dot com/feed -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 06:49:59 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: OpenOffice 3.1 Ed Durrant wrote: > Peter Moylan wrote: >> Has anybody here succeeded in getting OpenOffice 3.1 to work? I've just >> downloaded it from MenSys (I've paid for it) but I can't find any way to >> use it. If I click on a .odt file, I get the message "Support Agreement >> for OpenOffice dot org ..." etc. ... i.e. it wants the support agreement >> that I've already paid for. If instead I right-click and choose "Open as >> Text Document", I get OpenOffice 2.4, after all the initial crap about >> recovering the documents on CDs that I no longer have access to. >> Obviously, the OpenOffice installation has not included the WPS >> integration that we get with other OS/2 programs. >> >> The solution, obviously, is to go directly into the the >> D:\Apps\OpenOffice dot org.3 directory, and ignore the readme.txt - it's all >> in Italian, which I can understand only imperfectly - and execute the >> program\swriter.exe program. It didn't work, though. I got a message >> saying "Program cannot be started. Language could not be determined". >> >> Does anyone know how to tell the program that I speak English? >> >> > I also experienced that "give me your registration key" bug - if I > rememeber correctly it was because I hadn't installed a font package. > This was on a system with OOo/2 v 2 also installed on it. When I > de-installed (through Warpin) the OOo/2 v 3 install, installed the > Innotek font package and then re-installed the OOo/2 v3 wpi package > all was OK. Oh yes and the latest Warpin version was also needed if I > remember correctly. > > I currently have both OOo/2 v2 and v3 on my system with v3 being the > default to open OO files. > > Just remembered - it's the correct version of the WPS integration package that kicks out the "Support Agreement for OpenOffice dot org ..." problem. Here's the full (english) readme: ** OpenOffice dot org 3.1 for eComStation and OS/2 ** Welcome to the GA version of OpenOffice dot org 3.1.1 for eComStation and OS/2. ** Features ** - NLS: OpenOffice dot org 3.1 for eComStation and OS/2 is released in English, German, Italian, French, Spanish, Dutch and Russian. - Internet integration: - e-mail related settings are now supported, you can email your current document, but only Thunderbird is supported. - the default OS/2 browser will be used for opening web pages from URL links in documents. - Desktop integration: - support for WPS integration via seperate package. - support for the FreeType2 (FT2) font engine for improved text rendering. - support for XWP/eWPS sliding menu hilite (requires XWorkPlace 1.0.8 or eCS 2.0 RC4 or newer) - support for clipboard bitmap formats and unicode text. - support for mouse wheel. - Quickstart: the quickstart feature has been implemented for eComStation and OS/2. More information on the OpenOffice dot org development roadmap can be found at: http://development.openoffice dot org/releases/index.html Information on the eComStation and OS/2 version can be found at: http://www.ecomstation dot com/openoffice/ ** Installation ** Double click on the base WPI file (OOo311ga-base.wpi), it will automatically find the binaries and NLS WPI files. Please note that WarpIn 1.0.18 or higher is required for installation. You can download the latest WarpIn package from http://warpin dot netlabs dot org Besides this, also the UniClip and the kLIBC 0.6.3. packages are required to be installed prior to installing OpenOffice dot org 3.1. WarpIn version 1.0.18, UniClip 0.2.2 and kLIBC 0.6.3 can also be downloaded from the OOo download directory. ** Installation notes ** - UniClip is required to complete installation. (Available by default in eComStation 2.0) - LibC 0.6.3 is required to complete installation. (Available by default in eComStation 2.0) - Innotek Font Engine is required to run OpenOffice dot org 3.1 for eComStation and OS/2. (Available by default in eComStation) You can download it from the following location: http://download.innotek.de/ft2lib/InnoTek_FT2LIB_240_Release1.exe - this OpenOffice dot org build is based on current OOO310m19, the 3.1.1 release build. - this installation can be used alongside OpenOffice dot org 1.1.5 and OpenOffice dot org 2.x releases. - installation should preferably be done on a JFS volume, as it may run slow otherwise. The installation target volume must support long filenames. - installation takes around 400 MB of drivespace. - during installation a template folder is created which holds a large number of templates which can be used as a base for OpenOffice dot org documents. - for better rendering of the GUI font, it is suggested to install Workplace Sans TrueType font. This will also visualize the numbering for the vertical ruler, since the default font, WarpSans, cannot be rotated. It is advised to install this font prior to installing OpenOffice dot org. This font is available by default in eComStation 2.0. You can download the Workplace Sans font from the following website: http://users.socis.ca/~ataylo00/creative/fonts/index.html - Internet Application Integration (optional) This tool is installed and configured by default in eComStation 2.0. You can download it from the authors webpage if needed: http://7cities dot net/~mckinnis/os2/index.html When configured properly, it is possible to use Thunderbird for sending your documents. To enable this feature, the Internet Application Integration tool must be installed and configured for your email client. In OOo options, Internet settings, set email program field to 'thunderbird'. The full path for executable and directories will be taken from your INI files (IAI settings). The default OS/2 browser will be used for opening web pages. To enable this feature, the Internet Application Integration tool must be installed and configured for your browser. - Quickstart: To enable quickstart, you can place a shadow of the quickstart WPS icon object in the startup folder. Currently OOo cannot be unloaded, you need to 'kill' the open instance. You can customize the quickstart feature and decide which modules to preload at system startup. Open the Quickstart object properties and change the parameters field with: -writer to preload Writer module -calc to preload Calc module -draw to preload Draw module -math to preload Math module -base to preload Base module -impress to preload Impress module -norestore suppress restart/restore after fatal errors. You can mix above settings to match your personal preferences. Without above options, only the OOo core program will be loaded. - WPS integration package for OpenOffice dot org 3.1 for eComStation and OS/2: - Extends the WPS data file class to recognize OpenOffice dot org document files - Integrated support for WPS-Wizard hint and folder info area - REXX hooks for reading document properties If you are updating from an earlier release, the WPS integration is already enabled and working; if WPS integration was enabled for beta releases, you need to install the OOoWPS103.WPI package (if not already installed) and run ?:\OpenOffice dot org.3\program\ooodoc.cmd This script will activate the WPS integration for this release of OpenOffice dot org 3.1 and remove it from other releases. - When documents are saved, the proper Extended Attribute Type is added to the file, this allows recognizing OOo documents even if the extension is not added. ** Uninstallation ** If this package is installed over an existing 2.0 installation, the uninstall will report a lot of errors related to 'Shared Common1' and 'Shared Common2' packages; these packages were created to workaround a WarpIn bug (bug#1150). Now these packages are integrated into a single one, but the entries are already in the WarpIn Database, so you get the errors. You can just ignore them. ** Known issues ** - Printing of unicode text could fail, this is an ft2lib issue under investigation. Bullets are unicode characters, you can use images to workaround this limit. - OpenOffice dot org will use high memory for documents, but DLL binary code is loaded in the low shared arena by OS/2 kernel; this causes it to fail on some systems. If this happens, OpenOffice dot org will popup an error message with a reference to the failing DLL. It may help to set the VIRTUALADDRESSLIMIT to 1536 or 1024 in the config.sys. With recent kernels it is possible to mark dynamic libraries for high memory loading (get above512 from hobbes). Since this feature is not stable, we cannot apply to code, but testers have found it works in most situations (be aware, you can trap your system when killing OOo). Another helpful hint is to use the QuickStart feature described above, this will 'preload' parts of OpenOffice into memory, which may increase the succesrate of loading OpenOffice. - Font rendering: Since rendering is done directly with Unicode fonts, it may happen that some older fonts are not anti-aliased; this means that your font does not support Unicode charmaps and needs to be upgraded. - Java not supported. - Play of sounds is not working. - Macro security not working (requires java). - Digital signatures not working (requires java) - Base module supports dBase, MySQL, ODBC databases, hsqldb not supported (requires java). - Some wizards are not supported, because they require java. (Menu option will fail silently). ** Reporting your findings ** If you find any bugs, issues, or have other remarks, please open a ticket at: http://www.ecomstation dot com/support/ooo2/ If you find any bugs, issues, or have other remarks, please provide as many details as possible and attach the soffice.log file created at every OOo2 crash: this file is located into your OpenOffice dot org.3\program\ directory. ** User Support ** For help with the OpenOffice dot org 3.1 office suite, take a look at the archives to find questions already answered on the 'users at openoffice dot org' mailing list at http://www.openoffice dot org/mail_list.html. Alternatively, you can send in your questions to users at openoffice dot org. Remember to subscribe to the list to get an email response. Also check the FAQ section at http://user-faq.openoffice dot org/. Support specific to the eComStation and OS/2 version can be obtained through the ticketing system at: http://www.ecomstation dot com/support/ooo2/ ** More information ** More information on OpenOffice dot org can be found at: http://www.openoffice dot org/ Information on the eComStation and OS/2 version can be found at: http://www.ecomstation dot com/openoffice/ ** (c) 2005-2009 Serenity Systems International ** [eof] -- Cheers/2 Ed Please checkout my podcasts at: http://eComStationAustralia.podbean dot com or via iTunes To subscribe - click this: http://eComStationAustralia.podbean dot com/feed -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 07:44:47 +1000 From: Dennis Nolan Subject: Re: Strange PC Have you thoroughly checked the RAM. I had a similar problem which turned out to be faulty RAM (not the chips but motherboard). Fortunately it was up at the top of the address range. Dennis. Alan Duval wrote: > I have a PC with M3A motherboard and Athlon 64X2 dual core processor. > I bought it over a year ago but have never used it as I can get only > WIN XP and GOS to operate on it. All other varieties of Linux freeze > when I load a program e.g OpenOffice or Firefox and start to use the > mouse or keyboard. eCS wouldn't install on it so I gave it up. I > thought I'd try again to get it going but same result. I can't > understand why Ubuntu 8.04 freezes but GOS doesn't when GOS is based > on Ubuntu 8.04 and the strange thing is that GOS was installed on a > removable drive in my other computer which has a different > motherboard, yet it works in the M3A PC. > I have tried to get answers from the Ubuntu forums but no one seems to > have any answers. I did find a lot of letters from people who were > complaining that using the mouse caused their systems to freeze. > Various suggestions were given but none that solved the problem for > everyone. > I know it's not an eCS problem but does anyone have a suggestion as to > what I can do? > > > Regards, > > Alan Duval > -------------------------------------------------- > > http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 10:32:24 +1000 From: Alan Duval Subject: Re: Strange PC Mike O'Connor wrote: > On 2010-05-16 21:40 (AEST), Alan Duval wrote: >> I have a PC with M3A motherboard and Athlon 64X2 dual core processor. >> I bought it over a year ago but have never used it as I can get only >> WIN XP and GOS to operate on it. All other varieties of Linux freeze >> when I load a program e.g OpenOffice or Firefox and start to use the >> mouse or keyboard. eCS wouldn't install on it so I gave it up. I >> thought I'd try again to get it going but same result. I can't >> understand why Ubuntu 8.04 freezes but GOS doesn't when GOS is based >> on Ubuntu 8.04 and the strange thing is that GOS was installed on a >> removable drive in my other computer which has a different >> motherboard, yet it works in the M3A PC. >> I have tried to get answers from the Ubuntu forums but no one seems >> to have any answers. I did find a lot of letters from people who were >> complaining that using the mouse caused their systems to freeze. >> Various suggestions were given but none that solved the problem for >> everyone. >> I know it's not an eCS problem but does anyone have a suggestion as >> to what I can do? >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Alan Duval > > Hi Alan, > > I presume you mean with the unused motherboard system? > > Why not give "PCLinuxOS OpenBox 2010" a go? > > It seems here to pick up all the hardware correctly - happily cohabits > with the IBM Boot Manager - reads and writes HPFS & (eCS) JFS etc, and > seems to have a lot of facilities in the ~602MB package. > I have had it installed on AMD X2 4800+ on ASUS M2V-MX motherboard, > but haven't had time yet (10 minutes or less to install!)! :-D > I used previous 2009 editions of it and found it excellent. :-) > Excellent out of the box. > > Regards > Thanks Mike. I found a live PCLinux OS 2009 disk and it works OK. Can open Firefox and use mouse and keyboard without system freezing. It hasn't got OpenOffice to try and I'm not sure how one installs OpenOffice as it just mentions a script to install it. Tried "apt-get install openoffice" but it couldn't find openoffice. Anyhow it's promising so I may scrub WIN XP and install PCLinux OS to the hard drive and then search out how to install OpenOffice. The reason I'm wanting to install a Linux system on this box is so that I can use it for my reception desk to interact with a medical program that I have installed in my surgery PC. The surgery PC has Ubuntu 8.04 LTS installed and the medical program is an open source one that I have had to install by command line. I could use the removable HD with GOS installed but would rather install Linux directly to the reception desk PC. Regards, Alan -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 10:39:18 +1000 From: Alan Duval Subject: Re: Strange PC Ian Manners wrote: > Hi Alan, > > >> I know it's not an eCS problem but does anyone have a suggestion as to >> what I can do? >> > > First thing I do in cases like this, is remove the clock/cmos battery, > leave the > computer unplugged from the wall, leave it overnight, come back the next > day, > put the battery back in and see what happens. > > Try ECs before booting with/from WinXP otherwise WinXP is likely to undo > the fresh start. > Thanks Ian. However on following Mike's advice and noting that PCLinux OS live works in this PC and no version of Ubuntu does I suspect that there is some driver missing in Ubuntu which is present in GOS and PCLinux OS. Regards, Alan -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 10:46:56 +1000 From: Alan Duval Subject: Re: Strange PC Dennis Nolan wrote: > Have you thoroughly checked the RAM. > I had a similar problem which turned out to be faulty RAM (not the > chips but motherboard). Fortunately it was up at the top of the > address range. Yes! I ran Memtest 86 and there was no problem with the RAM. The problem is with Ubuntu and many other Linux distributions. They obviously lack some driver necessary for this motherboard. I found that PCLinux OS works as suggested by Mike. Regards, Alan > > > > > Alan Duval wrote: >> I have a PC with M3A motherboard and Athlon 64X2 dual core processor. >> I bought it over a year ago but have never used it as I can get only >> WIN XP and GOS to operate on it. All other varieties of Linux freeze >> when I load a program e.g OpenOffice or Firefox and start to use the >> mouse or keyboard. eCS wouldn't install on it so I gave it up. I >> thought I'd try again to get it going but same result. I can't >> understand why Ubuntu 8.04 freezes but GOS doesn't when GOS is based >> on Ubuntu 8.04 and the strange thing is that GOS was installed on a >> removable drive in my other computer which has a different >> motherboard, yet it works in the M3A PC. >> I have tried to get answers from the Ubuntu forums but no one seems >> to have any answers. I did find a lot of letters from people who were >> complaining that using the mouse caused their systems to freeze. >> Various suggestions were given but none that solved the problem for >> everyone. >> I know it's not an eCS problem but does anyone have a suggestion as >> to what I can do? -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG ===