From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 00:00:28 EST-10EDT,10,1,0,7200,4,1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1958 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Tuesday 25 May 2010 Number 1958 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 Problems with OpenOffice 3.1.1 : Peter Moylan 2 Re: Problems with OpenOffice 3.1.1 : Ian Manners" 3 Re: Problems with OpenOffice 3.1.1 : Peter Moylan 4 Re: Problems with OpenOffice 3.1.1 : John Angelico" **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 00:45:31 +1000 From: Peter Moylan Subject: Problems with OpenOffice 3.1.1 Thanks to the help from people on this list, I now have OpenOffice 3.1.1 installed and working. The word processor part is going very well, and so is the equation editor. I am, however, having trouble using the drawing component and the spreadsheet. They both crash as soon as I try to save a file. For the spreadsheet, I did manage to create a spreadsheet with OpenOffice 2.4, and then import it into OpenOffice 3.1.1, but then I got a crash as soon as I tried to save a change. I'm used to the problems with the spreadsheet application, for which every OS/2 port has always been buggy. (The 2.4 version works provided you don't try to create a chart. The 3.1.1 version crashes on even the most elementary spreadsheets.) The drawing application problem, however, is new. Version 2.4 worked properly; it is only version 3.1.1 that crashes. Among other things, it crashes while trying to open a document created by version 2.4. I am successfully using all components (of OpenOffice 3.2, if I recall it correctly) on my Windows laptop. It is only the OS/2 version that is giving trouble. I guess I could go to Windows to create my diagrams and charts, but that would be a major inconvenience. I am now trying to fiddle with the Association Editor to force *.odg files to open with version 2.4. There's a slight problem in that version 3.1.1 tries to take over (and then crashes) even then, but no doubt I'll eventually sort that out. It's a pity, though, to have to revert to an old version to get anything to work. Any suggestions? My original problem with the word processor turned out to be due to my not having installed the (now no longer available) Innotek font rendering software, but I've now installed that. Anyway, a drawing package shouldn't crash for lack of font support. -- Peter Moylan peter at pmoylan dot org http://www.pmoylan dot org -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 01:26:03 +1000 (EST) From: "Ian Manners" Subject: Re: Problems with OpenOffice 3.1.1 Hi Peter, >drawing component and the spreadsheet. They both crash as soon as I try >to save a file. For the spreadsheet, I did manage to create a >spreadsheet with OpenOffice 2.4, and then import it into OpenOffice >3.1.1, but then I got a crash as soon as I tried to save a change. This might seem strange but if you save in Word DOC and Excel XLS format OO doesnt crash, how embarrasing :o) Some people say you cannot have 2.4 and 3.xx on the same PC as this appears to cause a conflict but I have v3.xx on this spare PC of mine that has never had 2.4 on it, and I have to save files in .doc and .xls Cheers Ian Manners http://www.os2site dot com/ -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 02:29:52 +1000 From: Peter Moylan Subject: Re: Problems with OpenOffice 3.1.1 Ian Manners wrote: > Hi Peter, > > >> drawing component and the spreadsheet. They both crash as soon as I try >> to save a file. For the spreadsheet, I did manage to create a >> spreadsheet with OpenOffice 2.4, and then import it into OpenOffice >> 3.1.1, but then I got a crash as soon as I tried to save a change. >> > > This might seem strange but if you save in Word DOC and Excel XLS > format OO doesnt crash, how embarrasing :o) > > Some people say you cannot have 2.4 and 3.xx on the same PC > as this appears to cause a conflict but I have v3.xx on this spare > PC of mine that has never had 2.4 on it, and I have to save files > in .doc and .xls > Thanks for that suggestion. Unfortunately, what is killing me is the OpenOffice "document recovery" system. Every time I open a document it tries to recover all the failed documents, and at least one of those will cause a crash. As a result, I can no longer open anything. There doesn't appear to be any way to say "forget that failed document, it's not what I'm trying to open". That's a pretty serious design flaw, but I haven't yet figured out how to put in bug reports. It's starting to look as if I will have to use Windows for all OpenOffice operations. That's sad. A lot of things were working in version 2.4, but it appears that they are no longer working in version 3.1.1. -- Peter Moylan peter at pmoylan dot org http://www.pmoylan dot org -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 08:22:59 +1000 (AEST) From: "John Angelico" Subject: Re: Problems with OpenOffice 3.1.1 On Tue, 25 May 2010 02:29:52 +1000 Peter Moylan wrote: Hi Peter and Ian, >Ian Manners wrote: >> Hi Peter, I still use Mesa for spreadsheets (gee they got so much right back then!). >> I have both 2.4 and 3.1.1 installed on teh same machine, and distinguish the components by Program Object names (Calc is 2.4 Spreadsheet is 3.1.1) >>> drawing component and the spreadsheet. They both crash as soon as I try >>> to save a file. For the spreadsheet, I did manage to create a >>> spreadsheet with OpenOffice 2.4, and then import it into OpenOffice >>> 3.1.1, but then I got a crash as soon as I tried to save a change. I don't have that problem, although until recently I preferred 2.4 which loads faster. Check your path statements in CONFIG.SYS >>> >> >> This might seem strange but if you save in Word DOC and Excel XLS >> format OO doesnt crash, how embarrasing :o) Highly embarrassing! >> >> Some people say you cannot have 2.4 and 3.xx on the same PC >> as this appears to cause a conflict but I have v3.xx on this spare >> PC of mine that has never had 2.4 on it, and I have to save files >> in .doc and .xls Not a problem here. My main bug in 3.1.1 is that I cannot format a Page to change the page size. As soon as I hit the "Page" tab, the program crashes out completely. It's not a prob in 2.4, so I start there, save it as an ..odt file and then work in 3.1.1. If it's a stupid .docx file, I open it in 3.1.1, save it as is in .odt, then use 2.4 to reformat the page size. >Thanks for that suggestion. Unfortunately, what is killing me is the >OpenOffice "document recovery" system. Every time I open a document it >tries to recover all the failed documents, and at least one of those >will cause a crash. As a result, I can no longer open anything. There >doesn't appear to be any way to say "forget that failed document, it's >not what I'm trying to open". That's a pretty serious design flaw, but I >haven't yet figured out how to put in bug reports. Check the docs for the command line option "-norestore" > >It's starting to look as if I will have to use Windows for all >OpenOffice operations. That's sad. A lot of things were working in >version 2.4, but it appears that they are no longer working in version >3.1.1. I keep plugging away, but I am more frustrated by the entire design philosophy of MS-Word/OO, since I have become so comfortable with DeScribe. Best regards John Angelico OS/2 SIG os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or talldad at kepl dot com dot au ___________________ -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG ===