From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2013 00:00:48 WST-8WST,10,1,0,7200,4,1,0,7200,0 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 2088 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Friday 04 January 2013 Number 2088 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 OS/2 Developer Magazine's : Ian Manners" 2 http://www./melbpc/ : Ian Manners" 3 Re: http://www./melbpc/ : Robert Traynor \(BobT\)" 4 Firefox problem : Peter Moylan 5 Re: Firefox problem : Ian Manners" 6 Re: Firefox problem : Peter Moylan 7 Re: Firefox problem : Ian Manners" **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2013 01:44:52 +0800 (WST) From: "Ian Manners" Subject: OS/2 Developer Magazine's Hi Everyone, Hope you have all had a great 'festive' and New Year season :) Many years ago I'm sure that someone from IBM in either Melbourne or Sydney gave me a box of magazines, including the OS/2 Developer Magazine. After spending quite a bit of time going through all the OS/2 stuff I have here, even checking the stuff that Voytek sent me in case there were some in the stuff he sent me, I cant find them :( I know I had them, I can still visual the box they were all in. I even found my 5 long storage boxes of my Marvel comics but no OS/2 magazines :( Does anyone out there have any OS/2 Developer Magazine's ? If so, and your willing to part with them I'm happy to pay frieght on my TNT account, or if you could scan some articles, I know Martin Iturbide would be really happy. Cheers Ian Manners http://www.os2site dot com/ -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2013 01:47:21 +0800 (WST) From: "Ian Manners" Subject: http://www./melbpc/ Hmm >http://www./melbpc/ Should I remove this URL from the list footer ? Should I 'freshen' up os2 dot org dot au's website as well ? Just been updating a lot of links etc on os2site dot com so while I'm on an OS/2 run... Cheers Ian Manners http://www.os2site dot com/ -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 07:37:55 +1100 From: "Robert Traynor \(BobT\)" Subject: Re: http://www./melbpc/ Hi Ian, Yes. Please remove any mention of MelbPC User Group. Regards, Robert Traynor (BobT). 4 January 2013 7:37 -----Original Message----- From: Ian Manners Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 4:47 AM To: os2genau at os2 dot org dot au Subject: http://www./melbpc/ Hmm >http://www./melbpc/ Should I remove this URL from the list footer ? Should I 'freshen' up os2 dot org dot au's website as well ? Just been updating a lot of links etc on os2site dot com so while I'm on an OS/2 run... Cheers Ian Manners http://www.os2site dot com/ -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2013 11:02:07 +1100 From: Peter Moylan Subject: Firefox problem I have a nagging feeling that I've asked this question before, and someone on this list had the answer. (If so, I've lost it.) I recently upgraded Firefox to the latest release (10.0.11) for OS/2. It's not bad, except for a weird crash. Nearly every time I do a right click on a link (which I do a lot, to select "open in new tab") I get a succession of boxes written to the screen, going diagonally right and down, and then Firefox crashes when the boxes hit the bottom of the screen. Could this just be a question of screen driver, or something like that? The last time this happened I had to backlevel all the way to version 4.0.2pre, because I couldn't find releases between versions 4 and 10. If I can't solve this I'll have to do the same. I'm also having problems any time I leave a Google search window open. The swap file grows and grows until disk thrashing sets in. I can't get mouse inputs accepted until the inevitable popup "a script has stopped working". (It's always a google script.) However, I think that's the fault of Google, and I'll just have to switch to a different search engine, or find a way to block Google scripts. Unfortunately, a large part of the web appears to have slowed down my browsing by including the Google scripts that track my browsing. -- Peter Moylan peter at pmoylan dot org http://www.pmoylan dot org -------------------------------------------------- http://www./melbpc/ - The Melbourne OS/2 SIG === **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2013 19:39:40 +0800 (WST) From: "Ian Manners" Subject: Re: Firefox problem Hi Peter, >I have a nagging feeling that I've asked this question before, and >someone on this list had the answer. (If so, I've lost it.) Or no one answered :) Closest I can find is this post but no answer. >I recently upgraded Firefox to the latest release (10.0.11) for OS/2. >It's not bad, except for a weird crash. Nearly every time I do a right >click on a link (which I do a lot, to select "open in new tab") I get a >succession of boxes written to the screen, going diagonally right and >down, and then Firefox crashes when the boxes hit the bottom of the >screen. Could this just be a question of screen driver, or something >like that? If it's only happening with Firefox I would discount a stuck left mouse button. Beyond that.. >The last time this happened I had to backlevel all the way to version >4.0.2pre, because I couldn't find releases between versions 4 and 10. If >I can't solve this I'll have to do the same. Older versions :- (look for Contrib directories) >I'm also having problems any time I leave a Google search window open. >The swap file grows and grows until disk thrashing sets in. I can't get >mouse inputs accepted until the inevitable popup "a script has stopped >working". (It's always a google script.) However, I think that's the >fault of Google, and I'll just have to switch to a different search >engine, or find a way to block Google scripts. Unfortunately, a large >part of the web appears to have slowed down my browsing by including the >Google scripts that track my browsing. What do you have in your plugins directory ? The only files I have there now are GBM plugins, I probably dont even need those. Make sure you dont have any old netscape ones hanging around. Cheers Ian Manners http://www.os2site dot com/ -------------------------------------------------- **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2013 23:43:00 +1100 From: Peter Moylan Subject: Re: Firefox problem On 04/01/13 22:39, Ian Manners wrote: > Hi Peter, > >> I have a nagging feeling that I've asked this question before, and >> someone on this list had the answer. (If so, I've lost it.) > > Or no one answered :) > > Closest I can find is this post but no answer. > > roups=#!topic/mozilla.dev.ports.os2/46a_ZYljd4g> That does seem to be a closely related bug. Unfortunately it's only a question, no answer, as you say. I hadn't thought of looking at POPUPLOG.OS2, because it invariably says that the crash is in PMMERGE.DLL, which is not much help if you don't have the sources for PMMERGE. Now that I've looked, I see that the majority of the entries are for Firefox 10.0.5 and Firefox 10.0.11. >> I recently upgraded Firefox to the latest release (10.0.11) for >> OS/2. It's not bad, except for a weird crash. Nearly every time I >> do a right click on a link (which I do a lot, to select "open in >> new tab") I get a succession of boxes written to the screen, going >> diagonally right and down, and then Firefox crashes when the boxes >> hit the bottom of the screen. Could this just be a question of >> screen driver, or something like that? > > If it's only happening with Firefox I would discount a stuck left > mouse button. Beyond that.. Definitely only Firefox. Even Thunderbird 10.0.11 is well-behaved, apart from its idiotic insistence on being a tabbed browser and the long-standing problem where the designers don't seem to know how to handle "plain text". > >> The last time this happened I had to backlevel all the way to >> version 4.0.2pre, because I couldn't find releases between versions >> 4 and 10. If I can't solve this I'll have to do the same. > > Older versions :- > > > (look for Contrib > directories) > Thanks. I've just downloaded and installed version 9.0.1 from os2site. Same bug. I suppose I'll just have to work backwards through the versions until I find one that works. The reason I want to use a relatively recent version is that the Firefox extensions that stop Google from tracking you aren't available for earlier versions. Maybe I should also try an upgrade to screen drivers. It's a long shot, but you never know. >> I'm also having problems any time I leave a Google search window >> open. The swap file grows and grows until disk thrashing sets in. I >> can't get mouse inputs accepted until the inevitable popup "a >> script has stopped working". (It's always a google script.) >> However, I think that's the fault of Google, and I'll just have to >> switch to a different search engine, or find a way to block Google >> scripts. Unfortunately, a large part of the web appears to have >> slowed down my browsing by including the Google scripts that track >> my browsing. > > What do you have in your plugins directory ? > > The only files I have there now are GBM plugins, I probably dont even > need those. Make sure you dont have any old netscape ones hanging > around. My plugins directory has DUMYPLUG.DLL npdjvu.dll npdjvu_093.zip npj2.dll npj2_j11.dll NPOS2AUD.DLL NPOS2MID.DLL NPOS2VID.DLL NPPROXY.DLL npswf2.dll XLATE.DLL I must admit that I don't even know what most of those do, although I must have known at some stage. They all have a file date of 1/11/08, which must be when I did an installation on this machine. My feeling, though, is that this is a Google problem rather than a plugin problem. It used to happen only with Google Maps. Now it also happens on a Google search page, and there are lots and lots of non-Google pages where it doesn't happen. (Where "it" = unreasonable growth in the swap file. Every page has the problem of crashing on right mouse clicks.) -- Peter Moylan peter at pmoylan dot org http://www.pmoylan dot org -------------------------------------------------- === **= Email 7 ==========================** Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2013 21:18:41 +0800 (WST) From: "Ian Manners" Subject: Re: Firefox problem Hi Peter, >My plugins directory has > >DUMYPLUG.DLL >npdjvu.dll >npdjvu_093.zip >npj2.dll >npj2_j11.dll >NPOS2AUD.DLL >NPOS2MID.DLL >NPOS2VID.DLL >NPPROXY.DLL >npswf2.dll >XLATE.DLL npos2*.dll will cause problems, as will DUMYPLUG.DLL You probably do not need npdjvu* certainly not the proxy plugin or the xlate. npswf2.dll normally leaks memory on later versions of Mozilla and in all likelyhood doesnt load anyway by now, maybe.. I would copy (not move) all of them to another directory then delete all of them. Try Firefox then :) Your also using the latest libc065 files from Netlabs ? libc-0_6_5-csd5.wpi (Second late file) at >I must admit that I don't even know what most of those do, although I >must have known at some stage. They all have a file date of 1/11/08, >which must be when I did an installation on this machine. DUMYPLUG.DLL = dummy plugin, not needed. npdjvu.dll DjVuLibre (spelt something like that) npdjvu_093.zip DjVuLibre npj2.dll Java plugin npj2_j11.dll Java plugin NPOS2AUD.DLL Netscape audio plugin NPOS2MID.DLL Netscape MIDI plugin NPOS2VID.DLL Netscape Video file plugin NPPROXY.DLL Netscape Proxy plugin npswf2.dll Flash XLATE.DLL No idea but I recognise it. I think it was Steve Wendt who had a page on plugins and other Mozilla information. >My feeling, though, is that this is a Google problem rather than a >plugin problem. It used to happen only with Google Maps. Now it also >happens on a Google search page, and there are lots and lots of >non-Google pages where it doesn't happen. Could be made worse by Google but I'm using FF under OS/2 Warp 4.52, no plugins, I havent missed the Java plugins, though latest version would probably be a lot safer for you if you do actually need Java. Most of your plugins probably dont even install with current OS/2 Mozilla apps but I would suspect (I could be totally wrong to) that one of those plugins is, and that it is your problem. >(Where "it" = unreasonable growth in the swap file. Every page has the >problem of crashing on right mouse clicks.) This bit I'm sure I've read somewere on the Mozilla newsgroup and the fix most of the time with later releases was to remove old and non functioning plugins. Cheers Ian Manners http://www.os2site dot com/ --------------------------------------------------