From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 00:01:02 WST-8WST,10,1,0,7200,4,1,0,7200,0 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 2111 Reply-To: os2genau_digest at os2site.com X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Monday 27 July 2015 Number 2111 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 Need help with video problem : Peter Moylan 2 Re: Need help with video problem : 3 Re: Need help with video problem : Voytek 4 Re: /[Weasel] Need help with video problem : 5 Re: Need help with video problem : Glenn Montgomery 6 OS/2 as a VM? : Voytek 7 Re: Need help with video problem : Peter Moylan 8 Re: OS/2 as a VM? : Paul Smedley 9 Need help with video problem : Mike O'Connor 10 Re: Need help with video problem : Peter Moylan **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 13:09:28 +1000 From: Peter Moylan Subject: Need help with video problem Can anyone tell me how to reset my screen resolution (down to 800x600, for example), when I don't have any access to the OS/2 desktop? I'm sending this from my Windows laptop, because at present I have no way of using my OS/2 machine. Luckily I can receive mail here. What happened: This morning when I booted up the computer, the monitor failed. (Faulty power switch, perhaps, but in any case it's unusable.) Luckily I had a spare monitor, so I connected that. All was working well except I had a funny aspect ratio because of a different-shaped screen. I should have decided to live with that, but no, I had to fiddle. I set the screen resolution to the next-higher resolution (I've forgotten the exact numbers; I think I started from a 1280 width, but am not sure). When I rebooted all went well until the sound that says the desktop is coming up. At that point the monitor said "No signal". Presumable I'd picked a resolution the monitor couldn't support. But now I have no way of going back to the old resolution! I tried booting from an eCS (2.0) installation disk. That took a few tries, but eventually I got a successful start by specifying "Legacy Hardware", no AMOUSE, and Snap graphics. Unfortunately when it got to the point of a graphics screen coming up, the whole display was scrunched up in about the top quarter of the screen, too small for anything to be readable. I had hoped that the installer would default back to a low resolution, but apparently not. Either that, or I have the display controller stuck in a state where the resolution can't be changed. (Or there's a hardware fault, but I'm hoping not.) Any suggestions? It seems to me that I only need to reset the system to some sort of initial default, but I can't see how to do that when I have no access to the desktop. -- Peter Moylan peter at pmoylan.org http://www.pmoylan.org --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ----------------------------------------------- To Subscribe/Unsubscribe go to =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= This is a pulp free product. **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 11:37:43 +0800 (WST) From: Subject: Re: Need help with video problem Hi Peter, > Can anyone tell me how to reset my screen resolution (down to 800x600, for example), when I don't have any access to the > OS/2 desktop? I'm sending this from my Windows laptop, because at present I have no way of using my OS/2 machine. > Luckily I can receive mail here. When you see the OS/2 block top left of screen right after your computer starts to boot from the HD, press ALT-F2, select the reset video option, I cant remember which key it was but theres a list. See further below if you get a screen using only part of your monitors realestate. Then you can re/install SNAP Graphics ;-) > Unfortunately when it got to the point of a graphics > screen coming up, the whole display was scrunched > up in about the top quarter of the screen, too small for > anything to be readable. I had hoped that the installer > would default back to a low resolution, but apparently not. Depending on your monitor, that might be the lower resolution. A lot of LCD screens can only display there native resolution as they dont include screen size rescalars to bring the LCD monitor price down, so the only way to get ful screen size is to set that screens native resolution. I google the monitor make and model number to find the screen resolution before changing settings. Depending on the monitors resolution you might also have to install the Panorama video driver, assuming here that your graphics card can actually drive the required screen resolution. Hope the aboves your problem because thats easier. Cheers Ian Manners http://www.os2site.com/ ----------------------------------------------- To Subscribe/Unsubscribe go to =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This is a pulp free product. **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 13:40:25 +1000 From: Voytek Subject: Re: Need help with video problem On 27 July 2015 1:09:28 pm AEST, Peter Moylan wrote: >Can anyone tell me how to reset my screen resolution (down to 800x600, >for example), when I don't have any access to the OS/2 desktop? I'm >sending this from my Windows laptop, because at present I have no way >of >using my OS/2 machine. Luckily I can receive mail here. > >What happened: >This morning when I booted up the computer, the monitor failed. (Faulty > >power switch, perhaps, but in any case it's unusable.) Luckily I had a >spare monitor, so I connected that. All was working well except I had a > >funny aspect ratio because of a different-shaped screen. I should have >decided to live with that, but no, I had to fiddle. I set the screen >resolution to the next-higher resolution (I've forgotten the exact >numbers; I think I started from a 1280 width, but am not sure). > >When I rebooted all went well until the sound that says the desktop is >coming up. At that point the monitor said "No signal". Presumable I'd >picked a resolution the monitor couldn't support. But now I have no way > >of going back to the old resolution! > >I tried booting from an eCS (2.0) installation disk. That took a few >tries, but eventually I got a successful start by specifying "Legacy >Hardware", no AMOUSE, and Snap graphics. Unfortunately when it got to >the point of a graphics screen coming up, the whole display was >scrunched up in about the top quarter of the screen, too small for >anything to be readable. I had hoped that the installer would default >back to a low resolution, but apparently not. Either that, or I have >the >display controller stuck in a state where the resolution can't be >changed. (Or there's a hardware fault, but I'm hoping not.) > >Any suggestions? It seems to me that I only need to reset the system to > >some sort of initial default, but I can't see how to do that when I >have >no access to the desktop. Testing my RAM here... Wasn't it the go to boot to, whatever that screen is called ? where you have 'choose to recover', as well as, reset to VGA? -- Sent from Kaiten Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ----------------------------------------------- To Subscribe/Unsubscribe go to =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This is a pulp free product. **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 11:50:53 +0800 (WST) From: Subject: Re: /[Weasel] Need help with video problem Hi Peter, Neil's bit sounds better to try first that my advice, > On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 13:09:28 +1000, Peter Moylan wrote: > > > Can anyone tell me how to reset my screen resolution (down to 800x600, > > for example), when I don't have any access to the OS/2 desktop? > > If it's a recent eCS, then ctrl-alt-del will bring up a menu. Go to command > line. > > \os2\setres.cm d will reset the display to 800 x 600 x 16 colors. > > If you can get the Alt F1 at boot and display the recovery choices menu, then > setres from command line. > > Some monitors don't work well with the recovery choices menu. > > Panorama users can use panoutil -p. > > best regards, > Neil > -- > Neil Waldhauer, neil at blondeguy.com Cheers Ian Manners http://www.os2site.com/ ----------------------------------------------- To Subscribe/Unsubscribe go to =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This is a pulp free product. **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 13:54:47 +1000 From: Glenn Montgomery Subject: Re: Need help with video problem SGkgUGV0ZXIsIGlzbid0IHRoZXJlIGEgRjEgKGZyb20gbWVtb3J5KSBwcmVzc2luZyBkdXJpbmcg dGhlIGVjcyBibG9iIHRoaW5nIGF0IGJvb3QgdGhhdCB0YWtlcyB5b3UgaW50byBhIG1lbnUgdG8g cmVzZXQgdGhlIHZpZGVvPyBIb3BlIHRoaXMgaGVscHMsIEdsZW5uCgoKU2VudCBmcm9tIFNhbXN1 bmcgTW9iaWxlCgotLS0tLS0tLSBPcmlnaW5hbCBtZXNzYWdlIC0tLS0tLS0tCkZyb206IFBldGVy IE1veWxhbiA8cGV0ZXJAcG1veWxhbi5vcmc+IApEYXRlOjI3LzA3LzIwMTUgIDEzOjA5ICAoR01U KzEwOjAwKSAKVG86IG9zMmdlbmF1IDxvczJnZW5hdUBvczJzaXRlLmNvbT4sV2Vhc2VsIG1haWwg bGlzdCA8d2Vhc2VsLWxpc3RAb3Mydm9pY2Uub3JnPiAKU3ViamVjdDogW09TMkdlbkFVXSBOZWVk IGhlbHAgd2l0aCB2aWRlbyBwcm9ibGVtIAoKQ2FuIGFueW9uZSB0ZWxsIG1lIGhvdyB0byByZXNl dCBteSBzY3JlZW4gcmVzb2x1dGlvbiAoZG93biB0byA4MDB4NjAwLCAKZm9yIGV4YW1wbGUpLCB3 aGVuIEkgZG9uJ3QgaGF2ZSBhbnkgYWNjZXNzIHRvIHRoZSBPUy8yIGRlc2t0b3A/IEknbSAKc2Vu ZGluZyB0aGlzIGZyb20gbXkgV2luZG93cyBsYXB0b3AsIGJlY2F1c2UgYXQgcHJlc2VudCBJIGhh dmUgbm8gd2F5IG9mIAp1c2luZyBteSBPUy8yIG1hY2hpbmUuIEx1Y2tpbHkgSSBjYW4gcmVjZWl2 ZSBtYWlsIGhlcmUuCgpXaGF0IGhhcHBlbmVkOgpUaGlzIG1vcm5pbmcgd2hlbiBJIGJvb3RlZCB1 cCB0aGUgY29tcHV0ZXIsIHRoZSBtb25pdG9yIGZhaWxlZC4gKEZhdWx0eSAKcG93ZXIgc3dpdGNo LCBwZXJoYXBzLCBidXQgaW4gYW55IGNhc2UgaXQncyB1bnVzYWJsZS4pIEx1Y2tpbHkgSSBoYWQg YSAKc3BhcmUgbW9uaXRvciwgc28gSSBjb25uZWN0ZWQgdGhhdC4gQWxsIHdhcyB3b3JraW5nIHdl bGwgZXhjZXB0IEkgaGFkIGEgCmZ1bm55IGFzcGVjdCByYXRpbyBiZWNhdXNlIG9mIGEgZGlmZmVy ZW50LXNoYXBlZCBzY3JlZW4uIEkgc2hvdWxkIGhhdmUgCmRlY2lkZWQgdG8gbGl2ZSB3aXRoIHRo YXQsIGJ1dCBubywgSSBoYWQgdG8gZmlkZGxlLiBJIHNldCB0aGUgc2NyZWVuIApyZXNvbHV0aW9u IHRvIHRoZSBuZXh0LWhpZ2hlciByZXNvbHV0aW9uIChJJ3ZlIGZvcmdvdHRlbiB0aGUgZXhhY3Qg Cm51bWJlcnM7IEkgdGhpbmsgSSBzdGFydGVkIGZyb20gYSAxMjgwIHdpZHRoLCBidXQgYW0gbm90 IHN1cmUpLgoKV2hlbiBJIHJlYm9vdGVkIGFsbCB3ZW50IHdlbGwgdW50aWwgdGhlIHNvdW5kIHRo YXQgc2F5cyB0aGUgZGVza3RvcCBpcyAKY29taW5nIHVwLiBBdCB0aGF0IHBvaW50IHRoZSBtb25p dG9yIHNhaWQgIk5vIHNpZ25hbCIuIFByZXN1bWFibGUgSSdkIApwaWNrZWQgYSByZXNvbHV0aW9u IHRoZSBtb25pdG9yIGNvdWxkbid0IHN1cHBvcnQuIEJ1dCBub3cgSSBoYXZlIG5vIHdheSAKb2Yg Z29pbmcgYmFjayB0byB0aGUgb2xkIHJlc29sdXRpb24hCgpJIHRyaWVkIGJvb3RpbmcgZnJvbSBh biBlQ1MgKDIuMCkgaW5zdGFsbGF0aW9uIGRpc2suIFRoYXQgdG9vayBhIGZldyAKdHJpZXMsIGJ1 dCBldmVudHVhbGx5IEkgZ290IGEgc3VjY2Vzc2Z1bCBzdGFydCBieSBzcGVjaWZ5aW5nICJMZWdh Y3kgCkhhcmR3YXJlIiwgbm8gQU1PVVNFLCBhbmQgU25hcCBncmFwaGljcy4gVW5mb3J0dW5hdGVs eSB3aGVuIGl0IGdvdCB0byAKdGhlIHBvaW50IG9mIGEgZ3JhcGhpY3Mgc2NyZWVuIGNvbWluZyB1 cCwgdGhlIHdob2xlIGRpc3BsYXkgd2FzIApzY3J1bmNoZWQgdXAgaW4gYWJvdXQgdGhlIHRvcCBx dWFydGVyIG9mIHRoZSBzY3JlZW4sIHRvbyBzbWFsbCBmb3IgCmFueXRoaW5nIHRvIGJlIHJlYWRh YmxlLiBJIGhhZCBob3BlZCB0aGF0IHRoZSBpbnN0YWxsZXIgd291bGQgZGVmYXVsdCAKYmFjayB0 byBhIGxvdyByZXNvbHV0aW9uLCBidXQgYXBwYXJlbnRseSBub3QuIEVpdGhlciB0aGF0LCBvciBJ IGhhdmUgdGhlIApkaXNwbGF5IGNvbnRyb2xsZXIgc3R1Y2sgaW4gYSBzdGF0ZSB3aGVyZSB0aGUg cmVzb2x1dGlvbiBjYW4ndCBiZSAKY2hhbmdlZC4gKE9yIHRoZXJlJ3MgYSBoYXJkd2FyZSBmYXVs dCwgYnV0IEknbSBob3Bpbmcgbm90LikKCkFueSBzdWdnZXN0aW9ucz8gSXQgc2VlbXMgdG8gbWUg dGhhdCBJIG9ubHkgbmVlZCB0byByZXNldCB0aGUgc3lzdGVtIHRvIApzb21lIHNvcnQgb2YgaW5p dGlhbCBkZWZhdWx0LCBidXQgSSBjYW4ndCBzZWUgaG93IHRvIGRvIHRoYXQgd2hlbiBJIGhhdmUg Cm5vIGFjY2VzcyB0byB0aGUgZGVza3RvcC4KCi0tIApQZXRlciBNb3lsYW7CoMKgwqDCoMKgwqDC oMKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoCBwZXRlckBwbW95bGFuLm9yZwpodHRwOi8v d3d3LnBtb3lsYW4ub3JnCgoKLS0tClRoaXMgZW1haWwgaGFzIGJlZW4gY2hlY2tlZCBmb3Igdmly dXNlcyBieSBBdmFzdCBhbnRpdmlydXMgc29mdHdhcmUuCmh0dHBzOi8vd3d3LmF2YXN0LmNvbS9h bnRpdmlydXMKCsKgIC0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0t LS0tClRvIFN1YnNjcmliZS9VbnN1YnNjcmliZSBnbyB0byA8aHR0cDovL3d3dy5vczJzaXRlLmNv bS9saXN0Lz4KwqAgPS09LT0tPS09LT0tPS09LT0tPS09LT0tPS09LT0tPS09LT0tPS09LT0tPS09 LT0KClRoaXMgaXMgYSBwdWxwIGZyZWUgcHJvZHVjdC4K [attachments have been removed] ----------------------------------------------- To Subscribe/Unsubscribe go to =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= This is a pulp free product. **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 14:11:28 +1000 From: Voytek Subject: OS/2 as a VM? I'd like to set up OS/2 4.5x as a guest VM, what are my options for VM host system? I think I might have already asked that a while back... But haven't really progressed with this as yet, also would want to set up some Windows VMs, fwiw, like Win server. Voytek -- Sent from Kaiten Mail. Please excuse my brevity. [attachments have been removed] ----------------------------------------------- To Subscribe/Unsubscribe go to =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This is a pulp free product. **= Email 7 ==========================** Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 16:39:33 +1000 From: Peter Moylan Subject: Re: Need help with video problem On 2015-Jul-27 13:54, Glenn Montgomery wrote: > Hi Peter, isn't there a F1 (from memory) pressing during the ecs blob thing at boot that takes you into a menu to reset the video? Hope this helps, Glenn > I ended up trying this in the course of my experimenting. It works, but turns out to be a bad idea for those of us using the Panorama video driver. The catch is that there's nothing in the system setup (or in the help, as far as I can see) to tell you how to re-enable Panorama, so it took me a lot of fooling around to change back to anything other than 800x600. The "Selective Install" options do not support Panorama. -- Peter Moylan peter at pmoylan.org http://www.pmoylan.org A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? ----------------------------------------------- To Subscribe/Unsubscribe go to =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= This is a pulp free product. **= Email 8 ==========================** Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 17:52:18 +0900 From: Paul Smedley Subject: Re: OS/2 as a VM? Hey Voytek, On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Voytek wrote: > I'd like to set up OS/2 4.5x as a guest VM, what are my options for > VM host system? > > I think I might have already asked that a while back... But haven't > really progressed with this as yet, also would want to set up some > Windows VMs, fwiw, like Win server. I run eCS here using Virtualbox running on Ubuntu Desktop 15.04. Same box also runs a copy of Windows Server 2008 for testing Samba client ;) Cheers, Paul [attachments have been removed] ----------------------------------------------- To Subscribe/Unsubscribe go to =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= This is a pulp free product. **= Email 9 ==========================** Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 19:59:08 +1000 From: Mike O'Connor Subject: Need help with video problem Peter Moylan wrote the following at 2015-07-27 16:39 AEST: > On 2015-Jul-27 13:54, Glenn Montgomery wrote: > > Hi Peter, isn't there a F1 (from memory) pressing during the ecs > blob thing at boot that takes you into a menu to reset the video? Hope > this helps, Glenn > > > I ended up trying this in the course of my experimenting. It works, but > turns out to be a bad idea for those of us using the Panorama video > driver. The catch is that there's nothing in the system setup (or in the > help, as far as I can see) to tell you how to re-enable Panorama, so it > took me a lot of fooling around to change back to anything other than > 800x600. The "Selective Install" options do not support Panorama. > > -- > Peter Moylan peter at pmoylan.org > > http://www.pmoylan.org > Hi Peter, You're not looking in the correct Desktop folder! If you look in the Install/Remove fol;der you should see in any eCS 2.x installation an application labelled "Video Driver Wizard" which allows you to selectively install SNAP-Panorama-GRADD-VGA. Regards, Mike ----------------------------------------------- To Subscribe/Unsubscribe go to =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= This is a pulp free product. **= Email 10 ==========================** Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 21:46:31 +1000 From: Peter Moylan Subject: Re: Need help with video problem On 2015-Jul-27 19:59, Mike O'Connor wrote: > Peter Moylan wrote the following at 2015-07-27 16:39 AEST: >> On 2015-Jul-27 13:54, Glenn Montgomery wrote: >> > Hi Peter, isn't there a F1 (from memory) pressing during the ecs >> blob thing at boot that takes you into a menu to reset the video? >> Hope this helps, Glenn >> > > >> I ended up trying this in the course of my experimenting. It works, but >> turns out to be a bad idea for those of us using the Panorama video >> driver. The catch is that there's nothing in the system setup (or in the >> help, as far as I can see) to tell you how to re-enable Panorama, so it >> took me a lot of fooling around to change back to anything other than >> 800x600. The "Selective Install" options do not support Panorama. >> > Hi Peter, > > You're not looking in the correct Desktop folder! > > If you look in the Install/Remove fol;der you should see in any eCS > 2.x installation an application labelled "Video Driver Wizard" which > allows you to selectively install SNAP-Panorama-GRADD-VGA. > Thanks. I thought I'd searched all the folders, but apparently missed this one. I'll try to keep it in mind for future fiddling. I thought wizards were only found in Windows (and in Unseen University). -- Peter Moylan peter at pmoylan.org http://www.pmoylan.org A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? ----------------------------------------------- To Subscribe/Unsubscribe go to =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= This is a pulp free product.