From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 00:00:32 WST-8WST,10,1,0,7200,4,1,0,7200,0 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 2129 Reply-To: os2genau_digest at os2site.com X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Thursday 11 January 2018 Number 2129 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 ArcaOS programs : Alan 2 Booting OS/2 from a USB stick : 3 Re: ArcaOS programs : Peter Moylan 4 Re: ArcaOS programs : **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 12:11:40 +1100 From: Alan Subject: ArcaOS programs Hi members, I have just installed ArcaOS on a separate drive. Was disappointed that there was no office program but was told that the latest Open Office could be installed but no such package at the Arca Noae site. Hence I downloaded it but it couldn't be installed. Then fished out some old CD's and copied my OS2 programs to a partition. Found Open Office 2.02 and just had to click on the writer icon and it started. Then installed Smartsuite and Staroffice as I have CD's with documents from these programs. I would also like to install IBM Works but can't find it anywhere. Does anyone know where I can find it to install? Some of my old programs won't install but at least I have enough programs that I can use. The Arca Noae site is terribly slow and doesn't have much that one can install. Surely they could have a repository of installable programs. Someone wanting to try ArcaOS wouldn't know how to get an office program. Regards, Alan Duval ----------------------------------------------- To Subscribe/Unsubscribe go to =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= This is a pulp free product. **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 13:02:23 +1100 From: Subject: Booting OS/2 from a USB stick Dear all, I have recently completed a utility for converting a USB stick to a format where it is bootable to an OS/2 PM desktop. This is achieved by re-partitioning the USB stick into 2 partitions, a smaller FAT partition containing the boot files, and a larger HPFS or JFS partition containing the application files and the desktop. I have tested this with several versions of OS/2, eCS and ArcaOS, and in several different machines, and I hope I have ironed out all the bugs so far. The program comes with context-sensitive help, and requires the download of some helper utilities, most of which you may already have if you are using Hayo Baan's bootable.cmd. If anyone would like to beta-test this program, please let me know off-list and I will send you a ZIP of the files. Peter Rehfisch ----------------------------------------------- To Subscribe/Unsubscribe go to =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= This is a pulp free product. **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 15:27:41 +1100 From: Peter Moylan Subject: Re: ArcaOS programs On 11/01/18 12:11, Alan wrote: > Hi members, > > I have just installed ArcaOS on a separate drive. Was disappointed > that there was no office program but was told that the latest Open > Office could be installed but no such package at the Arca Noae site. > Hence I downloaded it but it couldn't be installed. Then fished out > some old CD's and copied my OS2 programs to a partition. Found Open > Office 2.02 and just had to click on the writer icon and it started. > Then installed Smartsuite and Staroffice as I have CD's with > documents from these programs. I would also like to install IBM > Works but can't find it anywhere. Does anyone know where I can find > it to install? I rely heavily on IBM Works, mainly for the diary. (I haven't found any other good diary program. The one that comes with Thunderbird was so disappointing that I disabled it.) Generally I just copy IBM Works from one installation to the next, because I want to keep my old data files (birthdays, various memos, etc.), but you should be able to install it from the "Bonus Pack" CDs from older versions of OS/2. You did keep those, didn't you? (Actually, I think I did need that Bonus Pack CD to install IBM Works this time, because I needed the installer to re-create a few abstract objects without which IBM Works won't work.) > Some of my old programs won't install but at least I have enough > programs that I can use. That surprises me. I thought it was only Microsoft that declared old and reliable software obsolete. A lot of what I use is applications I've been using for years. For example, I _always_ install PC/2 immediately after an OS installation, and I couldn't imagine trying to survive without it. The author gave up development on it years ago, but that doesn't matter because he didn't design any bugs into it. The only real annoyance is that every so often it tries to download updates from a nonexistent web site. Similarly, various items of IBM employee-written software still work well, even though it's become harder to find copies. > The Arca Noae site is terribly slow and doesn't have much that one > can install. Surely they could have a repository of installable > programs. Someone wanting to try ArcaOS wouldn't know how to get an > office program. I agree. One of the first things I noticed after installing ArcaOS was that much of my must-have software was missing. I got back most of it because my "Apps" directory was on a different drive -- I don't believe in putting programs on the same partition as the OS -- but I did have to go and get my eCS install disks for some software I needed. It's possible that there are licence conditions that prevent a lot of things from being kept on the ArcaOS web site, but it would be useful to have pointers there for where to get things. A URL for Hobbes, one for where to find OpenOffice 3.1, etc. -- Peter Moylan peter at pmoylan.org http://www.pmoylan.org I dream of a world where a chicken can cross a road without having its motives questioned. ----------------------------------------------- To Subscribe/Unsubscribe go to =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= This is a pulp free product. **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 12:30:53 +0800 (AWST) From: Subject: Re: ArcaOS programs Hi Alan, > I have just installed ArcaOS on a separate drive. Was > disappointed that there was no office program but was > told that the latest Open Office could be installed but > no such package at the Arca Noae site. Apache Open Office can be found at Bitwiseworks website as they compile(d) it. The link is over on the right hand side of the bitwiseworks website. The current OpenOffice will require additional librarys(DLL's) to be installed, which should be listed somewhere. The prerequisites can be installed via Arca Noae Package Manager (ANPM - see below). BitwiseWorks also did all the work for our current version of Firefox. > Hence I downloaded it but it couldn't be installed. Then > fished out some old CD's and copied my OS2 programs > to a partition. Found Open Office 2.02 and just had to > click on the writer icon and it started. Then installed > Smartsuite and Staroffice as I have CD's with documents > from these programs. > I would also like to install IBM Works but can't find it > anywhere. Does anyone know where I can find it to > install? I think it was part of the IBM BonusPak that came with some versions of Warp 3 and 4. Checking CD scan's it looks like it was also integrated with Warp4 at least on one of the CD versions. Your milage will vary on installing it on any modern version of OS/2. > Some of my old programs won't install but at least I have enough > programs that I can use. There are tricks to install some of the older programs depending on what error they give during the initial install. If you have copies of them on an older OS/2 installed system, I find it easier to copy them over to the new system then create any required desktop icons seperately as well as add any required PATH, DPATH statements to config.sys if required. > The Arca Noae site is terribly slow and doesn't have > much that one can install. The saying it most closely resembles is "Like swimming in molasses". :) > Surely they could have a repository of installable programs. They have the Arca Noae Package Manager, which is a GUI for YUM stuff. I assumed it would be installed automatically when you installed Arca Noae. Personally I dont use it but only because I'm a manual sort of person that puts things in a different place. With my ancient installed OS/2 it would mean a complete reinstall. I tried YUM once, had to restore everything from backup after a reformat before I could get a working system back. YUM or ANPM are best installed on a clean system. > Someone wanting to try ArcaOS wouldn't know how to get > an office program. I thinks its a bit of limited resources including time and partially relying on the community to help. I dont have or use BlueLion. Cheers Ian Manners http://www.os2site.com/ ----------------------------------------------- To Subscribe/Unsubscribe go to =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This is a pulp free product.