From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 00:00:47 WST-8WST,10,1,0,7200,4,1,0,7200,0 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 2130 Reply-To: os2genau_digest at os2site.com X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Friday 12 January 2018 Number 2130 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 Re: Booting OS/2 from a USB stick : 2 Re: ArcaOS programs : Alan Duval 3 Re: ArcaOS programs : Peter Moylan 4 Re: ArcaOS programs : Alan Duval 5 OS/2 / W10 lan access ? : 6 Re: OS/2 / W10 lan access ? : 7 Re: ArcaOS programs : Peter Moylan **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 19:17:21 +0100 From: Subject: Re: Booting OS/2 from a USB stick On 11-01-18 03:02, gillpete at vic.australis.com.au wrote: > Dear all, > > I have recently completed a utility for converting a USB stick to a format where it is bootable to an > OS/2 PM desktop. This is achieved by re-partitioning the USB stick into 2 partitions, a smaller FAT partition > containing the boot files, and a larger HPFS or JFS partition containing the application files and the desktop. > > I have tested this with several versions of OS/2, eCS and ArcaOS, and in several different machines, and I > hope I have ironed out all the bugs so far. The program comes with context-sensitive help, and requires the > download of some helper utilities, most of which you may already have if you are using Hayo Baan's > bootable.cmd. > > If anyone would like to beta-test this program, please let me know off-list and I will send you a ZIP of the > files. Hello, I understood from the Arca Noae tester mailing that Arca Noae is working on a bootable USB stick that you can both boot and install ArcaOS from. This functionality is included in the upcoming ArcaOS 5.02. Best regards, Roderick Klein President OS/2 VOICE ----------------------------------------------- To Subscribe/Unsubscribe go to =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= This is a pulp free product. **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 02:40:26 +1100 From: Alan Duval Subject: Re: ArcaOS programs Hi Ian and Peter,, Thanks for the quick replies. I downloaded OpenOffice from Bitwiseworks as suggested but have not installed it yet as there seems to be a lot of requirements so I have to read the readme first. Also I have been able to find IBMWORKS in a bonus pack of the first CD's I have for ECS 1.01. I copied it to my D:APPS partition and opened it and clicked on IBMWORKS.EXE and the window for choosing the word processor. spreadsheet or data base immediately came up and I was able to open them. However I was unable to open the PIM program which I assume was the file FPWPIM.EXE. Nothing happened when I clicked on it. I can also open OpenOffice 2.02 via SOFFICE.EXE in the OpenOffice folder that I copied from a CD I had containing all the programs that I had in the D: drive of a previous ECS installation. No installation was required, just a copy to my present D: drive. However I now find that I can't print anything that I type into OpenOffice or IBMWORKS. I have 3 printers : Xerox Phaser 3125, Brother MFC-7340 and HP Officejet 4650. I used a ppd file to install the Xerox printer and the CUPS program for the other 2 printers but nothing seems to be transmitted to any of them. Any suggestions what I can do? Kind regards, Alan Duval On 11/01/18 15:30, deadmail wrote: > Hi Alan, > >> I have just installed ArcaOS on a separate drive. Was >> disappointed that there was no office program but was >> told that the latest Open Office could be installed but >> no such package at the Arca Noae site. > Apache Open Office can be found at Bitwiseworks website > as they compile(d) it. > The link is over on the right hand side of the bitwiseworks > website. The current OpenOffice will require additional > librarys(DLL's) to be installed, which should be listed > somewhere. The prerequisites can be installed via > Arca Noae Package Manager (ANPM - see below). > BitwiseWorks also did all the work for our current version > of Firefox. > >> Hence I downloaded it but it couldn't be installed. Then >> fished out some old CD's and copied my OS2 programs >> to a partition. Found Open Office 2.02 and just had to >> click on the writer icon and it started. Then installed >> Smartsuite and Staroffice as I have CD's with documents >> from these programs. >> I would also like to install IBM Works but can't find it >> anywhere. Does anyone know where I can find it to >> install? > I think it was part of the IBM BonusPak that came with > some versions of Warp 3 and 4. Checking CD scan's it > looks like it was also integrated with Warp4 at least on > one of the CD versions. Your milage will vary on installing > it on any modern version of OS/2. > >> Some of my old programs won't install but at least I have enough >> programs that I can use. > There are tricks to install some of the older programs > depending on what error they give during the initial > install. If you have copies of them on an older OS/2 > installed system, I find it easier to copy them over > to the new system then create any required desktop > icons seperately as well as add any required PATH, > DPATH statements to config.sys if required. > >> The Arca Noae site is terribly slow and doesn't have >> much that one can install. > The saying it most closely resembles is "Like swimming in molasses". > :) > >> Surely they could have a repository of installable programs. > They have the Arca Noae Package Manager, which is a > GUI for YUM stuff. > .arcanoae.com/resources/downloadables/arca-noae-package-manager/> > I assumed it would be installed automatically when you > installed Arca Noae. Personally I dont use it but only because > I'm a manual sort of person that puts things in a different > place. With my ancient installed OS/2 it would mean a > complete reinstall. I tried YUM once, had to restore > everything from backup after a reformat before I could > get a working system back. YUM or ANPM are best > installed on a clean system. > >> Someone wanting to try ArcaOS wouldn't know how to get >> an office program. > I thinks its a bit of limited resources including time and partially > relying on the community to help. > > I dont have or use BlueLion. > > > Cheers > Ian Manners > http://www.os2site.com/ > ----------------------------------------------- > To Subscribe/Unsubscribe go to > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > This is a pulp free product. ----------------------------------------------- To Subscribe/Unsubscribe go to =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= This is a pulp free product. **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 14:03:19 +1100 From: Peter Moylan Subject: Re: ArcaOS programs On 12/01/18 02:40, Alan Duval wrote: > Hi Ian and Peter,, > > Thanks for the quick replies. I downloaded OpenOffice from > Bitwiseworks as suggested but have not installed it yet as there > seems to be a lot of requirements so I have to read the readme > first. > > Also I have been able to find IBMWORKS in a bonus pack of the first > CD's I have for ECS 1.01. I copied it to my D:APPS partition and > opened it and clicked on IBMWORKS.EXE and the window for choosing the > word processor. spreadsheet or data base immediately came up and I > was able to open them. However I was unable to open the PIM program > which I assume was the file FPWPIM.EXE. Nothing happened when I > clicked on it. No, FPWPIM won't work until you've installed it. Just copying the files isn't good enough, there are things like INI data that have to be created. There should be an install script on the bonus pack CD. Don't bother looking for it, just go through the whole "install bonus pack" operation, skipping all the stuff you don't want. That's possibly the slow way to do it, but at least that way you get the installation of IBM Works done properly. Sorry, I don't have any ideas about fixing your printing problems. The Arca Noae package manager should be able to sort out your DLL prerequisites, which have become complex lately. I initially couldn't get ANPM to work, but that problem was fixed with a newer version. -- Peter Moylan peter at pmoylan.org http://www.pmoylan.org I dream of a world where a chicken can cross a road without having its motives questioned. ----------------------------------------------- To Subscribe/Unsubscribe go to =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= This is a pulp free product. **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 22:29:29 +1100 From: Alan Duval Subject: Re: ArcaOS programs Hi Peter, I've been able to get the word processors in IBM works and OpenOffice 2.4 printing to my HP Officejet 4650 but unable to find drivers for my Brother MFC 7340 laser printer or my Xerox Phaser 3125 laser printer. I have a ppd file for the Xerox printer but can't find how to install it and Cups doesn't mention either printer although it does in Linux Mint 17 and I have all printers installed in that system. If I could get the latest version of Cups installed I think that would solve the problem. I could download it from the main site but wouldn't know where to copy it to or whether it would work in ArcaOS.. I did find a command on a ECS disk to install IBM works but it didn't work. Also found a command to migrate IBM works and that put a folder on my desktop containing Icons for IBMWorks and for the various programs in PIM. The IBMWorks icon opens the screen to choose the word processor, spreadsheet and Data base but the PIM icons do nothing. Cheers, Alan On 12/01/18 14:03, Peter Moylan wrote: > On 12/01/18 02:40, Alan Duval wrote: >> Hi Ian and Peter,, >> >> Thanks for the quick replies. I downloaded OpenOffice from >> Bitwiseworks as suggested but have not installed it yet as there >> seems to be a lot of requirements so I have to read the readme >> first. >> >> Also I have been able to find IBMWORKS in a bonus pack of the first >> CD's I have for ECS 1.01. I copied it to my D:APPS partition and >> opened it and clicked on IBMWORKS.EXE and the window for choosing the >> word processor. spreadsheet or data base immediately came up and I >> was able to open them. However I was unable to open the PIM program >> which I assume was the file FPWPIM.EXE. Nothing happened when I >> clicked on it. > > No, FPWPIM won't work until you've installed it. Just copying the files > isn't good enough, there are things like INI data that have to be > created. There should be an install script on the bonus pack CD. Don't > bother looking for it, just go through the whole "install bonus pack" > operation, skipping all the stuff you don't want. That's possibly the > slow way to do it, but at least that way you get the installation of IBM > Works done properly. > > Sorry, I don't have any ideas about fixing your printing problems. > > The Arca Noae package manager should be able to sort out your DLL > prerequisites, which have become complex lately. I initially couldn't > get ANPM to work, but that problem was fixed with a newer version. > ----------------------------------------------- To Subscribe/Unsubscribe go to =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= This is a pulp free product. **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 23:22:04 +1100 From: Subject: OS/2 / W10 lan access ? what do I need to have OS/2 and W10 see each other across NetBUI ? I can telnet from W10 to OS/2, but, can't access or see it across LAN net view just shows the \\warp -- Voytek ----------------------------------------------- To Subscribe/Unsubscribe go to =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= This is a pulp free product. **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 20:39:36 +0800 (AWST) From: Subject: Re: OS/2 / W10 lan access ? Hi Voytek, > what do I need to have OS/2 and W10 see each other across NetBUI ? Samba for OS/2 from Netlabs. I assume Samba can also be installed via Arca Noae Package Manager. There are also test versions of Samba at but your milage will vary as I havent tried them, or any samba for many years. I just FTP files if I need to talk to windows. > I can telnet from W10 to OS/2, but, can't access or see it across LAN Thats the good thing about TCP/IP, it stays the same for longer :) > net view just shows the \\warp OS/2's LAN software is far out of date. Also remember that Windows is NETBEUI over TCP/IP, not NETBEUI over Netbios. Cheers Ian Manners http://www.os2site.com/ ----------------------------------------------- To Subscribe/Unsubscribe go to =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This is a pulp free product. **= Email 7 ==========================** Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 00:17:24 +1100 From: Peter Moylan Subject: Re: ArcaOS programs On 12/01/18 22:29, Alan Duval wrote: > Hi Peter, > > I've been able to get the word processors in IBM works and OpenOffice > 2.4 printing to my HP Officejet 4650 but unable to find drivers for > my Brother MFC 7340 laser printer or my Xerox Phaser 3125 laser > printer. I have a ppd file for the Xerox printer but can't find how > to install it and Cups doesn't mention either printer although it > does in Linux Mint 17 and I have all printers installed in that > system. If I could get the latest version of Cups installed I think > that would solve the problem. I could download it from the main site > but wouldn't know where to copy it to or whether it would work in > ArcaOS.. As it happens, a Xerox Phaser 3125N was my previous printer. I'm sorry it eventually broke down, because the replacement I bought turned out to be Windows-only. Anyway, at the time I wrote a review which, among other things, showed how to get it working: http://www.pmoylan.org/pages/misc/Xerox_3125N.html On re-reading it, I see that I made the mistake of describing the things that didn't work before describing what did work, so you'll need to read the whole article before starting, to avoid false trails. But you can get it working in OS/2, and in fact it's easier than getting it working in Windows. One critical piece of information: you don't need Cups. As I recall it, you just use the OS/2 generic Postscript driver. And most of my installation difficulties lay in discovering the IP address of the printer. (Easy in hindsight, difficult when you keep running down false trails.) If you have the bare 3125 rather than the 3125N then you don't have a network printer, so you have to configure it as a parallel port printer. (There's also a USB option, but I never managed to get that working. It's possible that newer USB drivers will help there, but the parallel port option is probably the simplest.) > I did find a command on a ECS disk to install IBM works but it > didn't work. Also found a command to migrate IBM works and that put a > folder on my desktop containing Icons for IBMWorks and for the > various programs in PIM. The IBMWorks icon opens the screen to choose > the word processor, spreadsheet and Data base but the PIM icons do > nothing. The problem, of course, is to get FPWPIM working. The word processor and spreadsheet and database programs are conventional programs that do not use the object-oriented nature of the OS/2 desktop, but FPWPIM is very much a WPS program, and getting it working depends on creating the right WPS objects. The install script is supposed to do that. Now that I think of it, though, I seem to recall that it was harder to get it working in ArcaOS than in eCS. My memory's a little vague on this, but I think I had to copy some DLLs from the old installation into the new IBM works directory. In case it helps, here is the directory listing of my current working copy. You probably need to focus on the DLLs, comparing date and size with your own directory listing. If there are some you don't have, let me know. Note to everyone else: you can stop reading here if you're not interested in a directory listing. The volume label in drive D is PROGDATA. The Volume Serial Number is ABDF:C5C0. 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