From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2018 00:00:38 WST-8WST,10,1,0,7200,4,1,0,7200,0 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 2131 Reply-To: os2genau_digest at os2site.com X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Saturday 13 January 2018 Number 2131 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 Re: OS/2 / W10 lan access ? : 2 Re: OS/2 / W10 lan access ? : 3 Re: OS/2 / W10 lan access ? : Paul Smedley 4 Re: OS/2 / W10 lan access ? : 5 Re: ArcaOS programs : Alan Duval **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 17:59:22 +0100 From: Subject: Re: OS/2 / W10 lan access ? On 12-01-18 13:39, deadmail wrote: > Hi Voytek, > >> what do I need to have OS/2 and W10 see each other across NetBUI ? > Samba for OS/2 from Netlabs. > I assume Samba can also be installed via Arca Noae Package Manager. > > There are also test versions of Samba at > but your milage will vary as I havent > tried them, or any samba for many years. I just FTP files if I need > to talk to windows. > >> I can telnet from W10 to OS/2, but, can't access or see it across LAN > Thats the good thing about TCP/IP, it stays the same for longer :) > >> net view just shows the \\warp > OS/2's LAN software is far out of date. Also remember > that Windows is NETBEUI over TCP/IP, not NETBEUI > over Netbios. To be honest with Windows 10 you are most likely better of using Samba server/client. Roderick ----------------------------------------------- To Subscribe/Unsubscribe go to =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= This is a pulp free product. **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 18:48:19 +0100 From: Subject: Re: OS/2 / W10 lan access ? On 12-01-18 17:59, roderickklein at xs4all.nl wrote: > On 12-01-18 13:39, deadmail wrote: >> Hi Voytek, >> >>> what do I need to have OS/2 and W10 see each other across NetBUI ? >> Samba for OS/2 from Netlabs. >> I assume Samba can also be installed via Arca Noae Package Manager. >> >> There are also test versions of Samba at >> but your milage will vary as I havent >> tried them, or any samba for many years. I just FTP files if I need >> to talk to windows. >> >>> I can telnet from W10 to OS/2, but, can't access or see it across LAN >> Thats the good thing about TCP/IP, it stays the same for longer :) >> >>> net view just shows the \\warp >> OS/2's LAN software is far out of date. Also remember >> that Windows is NETBEUI over TCP/IP, not NETBEUI >> over Netbios. > > To be honest with Windows 10 you are most likely better of using Samba > server/client. > > Roderick What I wanted to type further before hitting send, the SMB 1 protocol will be fading out rather sooner then later in Windows. Unless you only want to use file and printer sharing between OS/2 versions then you can continue to use that. If you want to share folders between Windows and OS/2 I suggest you use Samba. I also suggest to people posting in other OS/2 forums to start pointing people to this solution if they ask. I consider the file and OS/2 printer support legacy support when it comes to communication with Windows. Roderick Klein ----------------------------------------------- To Subscribe/Unsubscribe go to =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= This is a pulp free product. **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 06:29:07 +1030 From: Paul Smedley Subject: Re: OS/2 / W10 lan access ? Hey Voytek, On 12/01/18 22:52, voytek at sbt.net.au wrote: > what do I need to have OS/2 and W10 see each other across NetBUI ? > > I can telnet from W10 to OS/2, but, can't access or see it across LAN > > net view just shows the \\warp Later updates to W10 force SMB3 by default to mitigate SMB1 vulnerabilities. Samba Client based on Samba 4.x will address this. There's an OS2world post from me with the necessary bits and pieces to get this working - ArcaOS includes the Samba 4.x client by default Cheers, Paul ----------------------------------------------- To Subscribe/Unsubscribe go to =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= This is a pulp free product. **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 10:24:33 +1100 From: Subject: Re: OS/2 / W10 lan access ? thanks for all replies so, I need nothing on W10, just Samba on Warp 4.50 ? does same apply/work with XP? I guess I would like to make the Warp machine inter operable with the rest of the equipment - how do I print to PDF, the Ghostscript thing doesn't seem to work anymore..? - update PDF viewer ? - is there any way to access LAN based scanner ? (or do I keep using SCSI HP scanner...) - what email clients support StartTLS/smpt auth (I think PolarBar does smtp auth but not the rest?) //the other day I emailed something only to receive "I'm away, please fax to xxx", no worries, went to my OS/2 machine (Compaq P350MGhz), plugged a phone line in the modem, that was easy, all worked, issue was how to get the pdf to the OS/2 machine... once done, couldn't open PDF, then, something else, then, then... eventually, made a TIFF, ftped over. faxed out, but, what a saga...// -- Voytek ----------------------------------------------- To Subscribe/Unsubscribe go to =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= This is a pulp free product. **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 14:20:09 +1100 From: Alan Duval Subject: Re: ArcaOS programs Thanks Peter. I'll probably come back to getting PIM working later. Today I installed Tame and was able to scan with my HP 4P scanner and save the scan. However then I couldn't print the scan and nor could I print from OpenOffice or IBM works, so I removed Tame but had then to reinstall ArcaOS and my printers again. It's taken up too much time and I'll have to switch back to Linux for a while to do other work. Alan On 13/01/18 00:17, Peter Moylan wrote: > On 12/01/18 22:29, Alan Duval wrote: >> Hi Peter, >> >> I've been able to get the word processors in IBM works and OpenOffice >> 2.4 printing to my HP Officejet 4650 but unable to find drivers for >> my Brother MFC 7340 laser printer or my Xerox Phaser 3125 laser >> printer. I have a ppd file for the Xerox printer but can't find how >> to install it and Cups doesn't mention either printer although it >> does in Linux Mint 17 and I have all printers installed in that >> system. If I could get the latest version of Cups installed I think >> that would solve the problem. I could download it from the main site >> but wouldn't know where to copy it to or whether it would work in >> ArcaOS.. > > As it happens, a Xerox Phaser 3125N was my previous printer. I'm sorry > it eventually broke down, because the replacement I bought turned out to > be Windows-only. > > Anyway, at the time I wrote a review which, among other things, showed > how to get it working: > > http://www.pmoylan.org/pages/misc/Xerox_3125N.html > > On re-reading it, I see that I made the mistake of describing the things > that didn't work before describing what did work, so you'll need to read > the whole article before starting, to avoid false trails. But you can > get it working in OS/2, and in fact it's easier than getting it working > in Windows. > > One critical piece of information: you don't need Cups. As I recall it, > you just use the OS/2 generic Postscript driver. And most of my > installation difficulties lay in discovering the IP address of the > printer. (Easy in hindsight, difficult when you keep running down false > trails.) If you have the bare 3125 rather than the 3125N then you don't > have a network printer, so you have to configure it as a parallel port > printer. > > (There's also a USB option, but I never managed to get that working. > It's possible that newer USB drivers will help there, but the parallel > port option is probably the simplest.) > >> I did find a command on a ECS disk to install IBM works but it >> didn't work. Also found a command to migrate IBM works and that put a >> folder on my desktop containing Icons for IBMWorks and for the >> various programs in PIM. The IBMWorks icon opens the screen to choose >> the word processor, spreadsheet and Data base but the PIM icons do >> nothing. > > The problem, of course, is to get FPWPIM working. The word processor and > spreadsheet and database programs are conventional programs that do not > use the object-oriented nature of the OS/2 desktop, but FPWPIM is very > much a WPS program, and getting it working depends on creating the right > WPS objects. The install script is supposed to do that. > > Now that I think of it, though, I seem to recall that it was harder to > get it working in ArcaOS than in eCS. My memory's a little vague on > this, but I think I had to copy some DLLs from the old installation into > the new IBM works directory. In case it helps, here is the directory > listing of my current working copy. You probably need to focus on the > DLLs, comparing date and size with your own directory listing. If there > are some you don't have, let me know. > > Note to everyone else: you can stop reading here if you're not > interested in a directory listing. > > > The volume label in drive D is PROGDATA. > The Volume Serial Number is ABDF:C5C0. > Directory of D:\PROGRAMS\IBMWORKS > > 13/01/18 0:12 486 ---- . > 16/09/17 11:43 496 ---- .. > 12/08/96 3:15 44,993 61 a--- about.exe > 29/07/94 21:57 5,528 0 a--- alarm.ico > 29/07/94 21:57 5,528 0 a--- appt1.ico > 14/12/95 12:48 5,528 0 a--- appt2.ico > 1/07/96 13:28 61,995 0 a--- autorec.dll > 25/07/94 11:59 5,528 0 a--- ch.ico > 1/07/96 13:23 432 0 a--- chart.def > 1/07/96 13:23 64 0 a--- colors.def > 29/07/94 21:57 5,528 0 a--- contact.ico > 12/08/96 1:20 118,296 61 a--- crt.dll > 12/08/96 2:27 464 61 a--- crtm.dll > 11/01/18 0:57 0 ---- data > 22/07/94 19:49 5,528 0 a--- db.ico > 1/07/96 13:20 4,885 0 a--- drvinfo.fnc > 1/07/96 13:28 52,235 0 a--- efldamz.dll > 1/07/96 13:28 646,213 0 a--- eflnl242.dll > 14/03/96 16:06 33,841 254 a--- fpwini.exe > 12/08/96 3:21 52,552 61 a--- fpwmon.exe > 12/08/96 3:12 15,593 0 a--- fpwobj.dll > 14/05/96 12:02 4,026 176 a--- fpwobox.ico > 14/05/96 12:02 4,026 177 a--- fpwobox2.ico > 12/08/96 3:21 385,516 61 a--- fpwpim.exe > 12/08/96 3:23 205,444 0 a--- fpwpim.hlp > 12/01/18 12:47 930 0 a--- FPWPIM.INI > 6/06/17 18:04 0 ---- graphics > 1/07/96 13:26 15,069 0 a--- ibbmp9.dll > 1/07/96 13:26 17,126 0 a--- ibgif9.dll > 1/07/96 13:26 21,213 0 a--- ibjpg9.dll > 29/04/96 13:14 17,138 16,182 a--- ibmwdesk.cmd > 1/07/96 13:26 5,283 0 a--- ibmwims.ini > 12/08/96 3:12 20,687 27,875 a--- ibmworks.exe > 12/08/96 2:45 311,008 0 a--- ibmworks.hlp > 6/06/17 20:26 5,554 309 a--- ibmworks.ini > 1/07/96 13:26 78,566 0 a--- ibpcd9.dll > 1/07/96 13:26 14,557 0 a--- ibpcx9.dll > 1/07/96 13:26 43,238 0 a--- ibpng9.dll > 1/07/96 13:26 15,590 0 a--- ibtga9.dll > 1/07/96 13:26 26,854 0 a--- ibtif9.dll > 1/07/96 13:26 14,053 0 a--- ibxbm9.dll > 1/07/96 13:26 24,293 0 a--- ibxpm9.dll > 1/07/96 13:26 14,053 0 a--- ibxwd9.dll > 12/08/96 2:44 202,519 27,875 a--- ien30par.dll > 12/08/96 2:53 92,411 61 a--- ien30pch.dll > 12/08/96 2:51 63,352 61 a--- ien30pco.dll > 12/08/96 2:50 187,642 61 a--- ien30pdb.dll > 12/08/96 2:58 141,275 61 a--- ien30prw.dll > 12/08/96 3:04 259,277 61 a--- ien30pss.dll > 25/08/96 13:05 392,137 61 a--- ien30pwp.dll > 12/08/96 2:43 25,003 0 a--- ien30pxr.dll > 12/08/96 2:43 272,449 61 a--- ien30pxu.dll > 12/08/96 3:12 25,385 61 a--- ien30pxx.dll > 1/07/96 13:26 58,077 0 a--- imcd39.dll > 1/07/96 13:26 65,245 0 a--- imcd49.dll > 1/07/96 13:26 65,245 0 a--- imcd59.dll > 1/07/96 13:26 15,581 0 a--- imcdr9.dll > 1/07/96 13:26 94,429 0 a--- imcgm9.dll > 1/07/96 13:27 30,429 0 a--- imcmx9.dll > 1/07/96 13:27 57,053 0 a--- imdrw9.dll > 1/07/96 13:27 74,461 0 a--- imdxf9.dll > 1/07/96 13:27 38,109 0 a--- imgdf9.dll > 1/07/96 13:27 23,773 0 a--- imgem9.dll > 1/07/96 13:27 52,446 0 a--- imhgl9.dll > 1/07/96 13:27 56,541 0 a--- imigs9.dll > 1/07/96 13:27 58,097 0 a--- immet9.dll > 1/07/96 13:27 54,007 0 a--- impct9.dll > 1/07/96 13:27 16,095 0 a--- impic9.dll > 1/07/96 13:27 28,893 0 a--- impif9.dll > 1/07/96 13:27 44,267 0 a--- imps_9.dll > 1/07/96 13:27 14,557 0 a--- imrnd9.dll > 1/07/96 13:27 53,493 0 a--- imwmf9.dll > 1/07/96 13:27 45,277 0 a--- imwp19.dll > 1/07/96 13:28 52,957 0 a--- imwp29.dll > 1/07/96 13:28 15,069 0 a--- imwpg9.dll > 1/07/96 13:28 178,446 0 a--- ippp39.dll > 1/07/96 13:28 91,406 0 a--- ippp49.dll > 1/07/96 13:28 16,605 0 a--- ipppt9.dll > 1/07/96 13:28 280,648 0 a--- isgpi9.dll > 29/07/94 21:57 5,528 0 a--- month.ico > 29/07/94 21:57 5,528 0 a--- notes.ico > 6/10/94 16:02 17,408 0 a--- ob2templ.exe > 1/07/96 13:28 32,839 0 a--- palctrl.dll > 29/07/94 21:57 5,528 0 a--- phonebk.ico > 1/07/96 13:23 3,240 0 a--- pie.def > 12/08/96 3:22 109,080 2,736 a--- pimrl.dll > 29/07/94 21:57 5,528 0 a--- prefer.ico > 1/07/96 13:20 1,200 0 a--- random.fnc > 21/03/96 10:06 59,585 5,773 a--- readme > 22/07/94 17:13 5,528 0 a--- rw.ico > 6/06/17 18:03 0 ---- samples > 22/07/94 20:33 5,528 0 a--- ss.ico > 29/07/94 21:57 5,528 0 a--- todo.ico > 23/10/95 3:08 3,072 0 a--- Untitled.lad > 31/03/95 14:54 666,624 0 a--- us.dic > 1/07/96 13:29 84,459 0 a--- w4w05f.dll > 1/07/96 13:29 83,915 0 a--- w4w05t.dll > 1/07/96 13:29 115,899 0 a--- w4w07f.dll > 1/07/96 13:29 125,787 0 a--- w4w07t.dll > 1/07/96 13:29 75,867 0 a--- w4w15f.dll > 1/07/96 13:29 76,059 0 a--- w4w15t.dll > 1/07/96 13:29 132,107 0 a--- w4w19f.dll > 1/07/96 13:29 130,571 0 a--- w4w19t.dll > 1/07/96 13:29 109,451 0 a--- w4w33f.dll > 1/07/96 13:30 112,251 0 a--- w4w33t.dll > 1/07/96 13:30 136,875 0 a--- w4w44f.dll > 1/07/96 13:30 139,947 0 a--- w4w44t.dll > 1/07/96 13:30 139,435 0 a--- w4w48f.dll > 1/07/96 13:30 141,739 0 a--- w4w48t.dll > 1/07/96 13:30 155,483 0 a--- w4w49f.dll > 1/07/96 13:30 130,987 0 a--- w4w49t.dll > 22/07/94 17:45 5,528 0 a--- wp.ico > 29/07/94 21:57 5,528 0 a--- year.ico > 114 file(s) 8,391,547 bytes used > 17,324,953 K bytes free > > > 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