Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 09:29:19 -0500 From: madodel at ptdprolog.net Subject: [VOICENWS] INFO: Support for hobbes, part 1--from David Rocks From: htravisDESPAM at attglobal.net Forwarded message from David Rocks DATE & TIME: 02/06/05 at 11:09 PM Posted on comp.os.os2.misc: [Moderator note: David Rocks posted the following as the first of two separate posts on Usenet. I will send the second part shortly.] ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: The responses to my original message brought up several points I should discuss. First, I need to make it clear as to my intent. I am not looking for an operating budget for hobbes. I merely would like some funds that would help maintain the system, such as replacing bad hard drives, adding memory, etc. I would also like there to some funds to help pay for student support but not to officially fund a student position for hobbes. So yes, funding for hobbes should at most be an occasional call for support. You have to understand that hobbes is and has been largely invisible to the university. At its highest there weren't more than a dozen OS/2 users on campus. I took on supporting comp.os2.binaries and then hobbes because I am an OS/2 user and supporter and I was able to take advantage of my position. What I did certainly can't be construed as part of the university's mission. I think hobbes has provided service to the world at large and is a project relevant to my job responsibility; supporting computing at my university. When asked I have always been able to provide 'adequate' justification, but mostly because hobbes never really bothered anyone. It didn't take much resources and did provide a training environment for student employees. What I was hoping to do by providing some funding for hobbes was to make it a 'real' project, not just my hobby. Through this I hope that after I leave the Computer Center at NMSU will have hobbes on their regular project list, and thus draw ongoing attention and support. Since the first note I have had discussions with the people here that would most likely to influence any decisions about hobbes. The Unix manager favors hobbes and sees no reason why he would want to discontinue it. The networking staff are always concerned about vulnerabilities on the campus network but when forced to think about it don't really see hobbes as a major threat. And the current CIO sees no issues and feels that if his unix manager feels hobbes has value and no one else complains, it is OK with him to have hobbes continue as an international resource. So to the final, most important point. No I can't guarantee the ongoing existence of hobbes, not even if I were to stay on forever. I don't think any other OS/2 site that might be set up could either. I do think some financial support could extend its existence into the near future and maybe for many years, possibly past when any of the responders might have any interest in OS/2. And even though separated from the university I will still be involved, as are most people who gave up a good part of their life to an institution of higher learning. At the least I am on the alumni solicitation list. I did have to come up with an acceptable termination rule for hobbes so the people at NMSU supporting it could establish a 'plan' for this project. So at NMSU, barring any need the university might have in the future, hobbes will go on as long as new items relevant to OS/2 are being uploaded to hobbes. That is the best offer I can make. ----------------------------------------------------- -- End of forwarded message ----------------------------------------------------- HPT -- ----------------------------------------------------------- htravis at attglobal dot net DemostiX ----------------------------------------------------------- -- Warpstock 2005 - Where/When? Stay tuned to http://www.warpstock.org Warpstock Europe 2005 - Where/When? Stay tuned to http://www.warpstock.net [Moderator's note: All posts are sent without guarantee to the accuracy of the content. We try to verify details and URLs but this is an entirely volunteer run list, so 100% fact checking and the quality/useability of products announced here is impossible. If you respond to this post please remove the DESPAM from the poster's email addresses. Please do not send requests for information about a specific post to the moderator unless it is an update or I sent it.] -- To unsubscribe yourself from this list, send the following message to majormajor at os2voice.org unsubscribe news end Or, visit http://www.os2voice.org/MailingLists.html If you have an announcement you would like posted to the VOICE News list, please send it to submit at os2voice.org. Please include a valid reply address and a real contact name. If you wish to comment on this post, please reply to feedback at os2voice.org