Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 09:34:01 -0400 From: madodel Subject: [VOICENWS] Admin: The issue of Mr. Samphere's and os2ecs.org's smear attack on VOICE. ++ From the VOICE OS/2-eCS News Service http://www.os2voice.org ++ From: Mark Dodel I had really hoped it wouldn't come to this but unfortunately I can only take so much grief. If this whole thing sounds convoluted and bizarre, trust me, it is the same for me. I am taking this action on my own. The VOICE board has yet to respond, but I am frankly unable to put up with it any longer. If the VOICE board decides its more important to cater to someone that is obviously ill, then someone else can take over the list moderation as I will be unable to do so any more. Beginning June 1st, Jeramie Samphere began a smear campaign against VOICE and myself. He sent a post to the eComStation Yahoo list, comp.os.os2.advocacy and comp.os.os2.ecomstation and posted on his web site as an announcement a post that implied that the VOICE Newsletter may not have a July issue, he maligned the appearance of the newsletter, he accused VOICE of blocking his domain from submitting to and receiving posts from his os2ecs.org domain, and he accused VOICE of covering up a plot to do this. If you were lucky enough to avoid all this nonsense, but feel the need to read his original diatribe you can read it at http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.os2.ecomstation/browse_frm/thread/af7987f3403703d2/9586122d960395ae#9586122d960395ae Since Mr. Samphere made no attempt prior to this to contact myself or our web master about problems he was having, and in fact he never responded to an earlier post from myself about an email address he had subscribed to the VOICE News list which was sending me rejections for his domains DNS (and this was for bob at qualitycarpetcare.info which I found from a whois is a domain owned by Mr. Samphere). Despite being told by myself and our server admin that we have never blocked has domain, he persists in accusing us of doing so and lying to cover it up. The VOICE President went so far as to perform a test to show him his domain wasn't blocked. After being presented with the results Mr. Samphere reiterated his charges, and said we had changed it. I have tried to be patient and have offered several opportunities for him to correct his mistaken belief, but to no avail. He continues to publicly attack myself and the VOICE organization on Usenet and on his web site. Maybe it gives him some sense of power, I have no idea why he is doing this other then that he has had a grudge against VOICE since he got himself banned from the IRC network that VOICE uses for meetings. That had nothing to do with VOICE and the people he ticked off still refuse to let him back on. I have given him fair warning. Something he didn't attempt before he blindsided us with this ridiculous attack but the following post by Jeramie Samphere pretty much forces me to take this action. You can view the original in google at http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.os2.ecomstation/browse_frm/thread/971183df9dc58f07/63cc9bfb841d82df?lnk=st "The other domain we used on the same server(as os2ecs.org) was not rejected by the VOICE news list (MajorMajor) server. The request was sent in the same period of a few min. This test was completed twice. The same result. Yet both domains were configured in the same manner. Please enlighten me on how that can be? Better yet, don't enlighten me. VOICE can do no wrong! That is the belief. So it must be a bizare technical issue! Perhaps Microsoft hacked the VOICE server. Maybe the moon is made of cheese and its affecting the way electrons travel in computer circuits! Perhaps the chemicals used in the manufacturing of plastics is causing brain damage. Who knows!? Did VOICE have a motive to do what they did? I submit to you "yes"! There has been resistance to the OS2eCS eZine and the OS2eCS Organization from day 1! VOICE told us we should not publish the OS2eCS eZine before the first issue ever appeared! We don't take orders from VOICE! "I know that you're afraid. You're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin." -- OS2-eCS Underground Community" I have been fair, and had he simply retracted his allegations after being told why he was probably experiencing his email problems then all this would be history. But he can't let it go and his smear campaign continues. There has been no plot. No one at VOICE has anything against his website. I did find it weird that he solicited money to start his "New hobbes" when the old one was still alive and had a lot of freely available mirror sites and hobbes was soliciting donations for itself. But I let it go by. It appears that Mr. Samphere simply wants to replace all the existing institutions left in the OS/2 community. If people want to put their faith in someone that is obviously unstable then all I can do is warn them. As of this point I refuse to post any announcements from Mr. Samphere and his web site and I will unsubscribe him from the VOICE newslist if I can determine how he is subscribed. This is a lot of effort on my part but I have no idea what else to do at this point. I regret having to do this, and I have never done this even to the Usenet troll that has pestered the OS/2 community for the past 10 years (Its amazing how just that description and most everyone will immediately know of whom I speak), but I am just weary of all this. There is no need to reply to this post. I have had lots of emails of support and I am comfortable that people who use this service appreciate it and will continue. Those who don't are free to go elsewhere. They are even free to continue to use our service. But it is not my responsibility to do work for someone that attacks VOICE, accuses me of lying and plans to just use my effort for his own site and his own competing mailing list. I apologize for wasting the lists time on this. I feel incredibly bad that this one-sided war exploded onto the eComStation mailing list where it had absolutely no business. I have been doing this for about nine years now and have made mistakes myself. People have forgiven my stupidity and we have moved on. But this is just nuts. If you support me instead simply avoid his site. Perhaps like his predecessor he will move on to newer pastures that are unfamiliar with his arrogant and truly obnoxious bizarre behavior. Mark -- Warpstock 2006 - Windsor, Ontario, Canada, October 12-15th, http://www.warpstock.org Warpstock Europe - http://www.warpstock.net [Moderator's note: All posts are sent without guarantee to the accuracy of the content. We try to verify details and URLs but this is an entirely volunteer run list, so 100% fact checking and the quality/useability of products announced here is impossible. If you respond to this post please remove the DESPAM from the poster's email addresses. 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