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On 11/23/19 02:14 pm, dougb007 at telus dot net wrote:
> On 2019-11-23, at 13:23:29, ygk at qwest dot net wrote:
>> On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 22:06:00 -0700 (MST) dougb007 at telus dot net
> wrote:
>>> On 2019-11-22, at 19:29:46, dougb007 at telus dot net wrote:
>>>> On 2019-11-21, at 21:05:32, dougb007 at telus dot net wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I still have a build problem that I need to resolve (I think I am
>>>>> missing something), but that is okay as long as you can build
> it
>>>>> successfully.
>>>> I am still not able to build this thing, and that means that I need
> to
>>>> find another way to trouble shoot PMMutil, which seems to have
>>>> some sort of problem. It is popping up an error, on a new install,
>>> but
>>>> the error doesn't tell me anything useful. Simply pressing
> <enter>
>>>> lets it continue.
>>> Okay, I found the build problem. Somehow, OS2TK45 got
> dropped
>> >from RPM/YUM. This was working, so I don't know what
> happened.
>>> Possibly something while testing ArcaOS. Anyway, I can build it
>>> now. I think the WIS, and PMMutil, are okay. They both need
> some
>>> work, but I think we should leave it, for now. Very few users (if
> any)
>>> will see any problems. The only problem, that I see, is doing a
> new
>>> install, with accounts already in place. PMMutil pops up an error,
>>> that doesn't tell me anything. Pressing <enter> will let it finish.
>>> This
>>> probably should be in the README.
>>>
>>>> QUESTION: Are you using the Watcom build, or the old
> method?
>>>> Have you decided which way we will go, for the longer term?
>>> There is still a problem with aspell.cnf. It needs to be:
>>> --------------------------
>>> #
>>> # aspell.cnf -- Configuration for PMMail use of Aspell library
>>> #
>>> dict-dir  at UNIXROOT/usr/lib/aspell-0.60
>>> data-dir  at UNIXROOT/usr/lib/aspell-0.60
>>> #
>>> # ____[ end ]____
>>> #
>>> ----------------------
>>> but PMMail doesn't understand " at UNIXROOT". It also doesn't
>>> understand %UNIXROOT%, so the user needs to set the proper
>>> drive (W:) in place of  at UNIXROOT, unless PMMail is installed
> on
>>> the UNIXROOT drive. Then they can simply omit  at UNIXROOT.
> I
>>> haven't been able to find where this file gets initialized.
>>>
>>> I can see a problem, if ASpell ever gets updated, and the path
>>> changes.
>> Hi Doug
>>
>> Aspell.cnf is generated by PMMail the first time it is opened and
>> anytime it is opened after aspell.cnf gets deleted or renamed. It is
> a
>> simple code change in speller_init (pmm-speller.c ~253). I just
> need to
>> call getenv to get the unixroot. I can fix it now or wait for the next
>> version. Let me know. Thanks
>>
>> Gregg
> Well, first off, you need to know if the user wants to use ASpell.
> ASpell doesn't cover all languages, so some users still need the old
> PMMail 2.x spell checker, which should be the default when ASpell
> can't be found (or a new user setting needs to be implemented, so
> the user can choose). In fact, ASpell really should be selectable by
> account, not as a  tool for all accounts. Some users have one
> account that operates in English, another that operates in French,
> and another that operates in German. The way it is today, they
> can't do that (other changes would also be required in the
> accounts). Something for the future, not for the upcoming release.
>
> Another problem: Currently, if you do a new install, PMMail won't
> start, looking for ASpell15.dll, which may not be there until the user
> installs ASpell (IF they want to use ASpell). Since PMMail won't
> start, it can't add, or fix, the aspell.cnf file, which the user may not
> want anyway. This one needs to be fixed.
>
> It seems that the two entries, in aspell.cnf, are the same, when
> using the RPM/YUM ASpell, but they are different when using the
> old PMMail version of ASpell (different directory structure). This
> works, for me:
> -------------------------
> #
> # aspell.cnf -- Configuration for PMMail use of Aspell library
> #
> dict-dir /usr/lib/aspell-0.60
> data-dir /usr/lib/aspell-0.60
> #
> # ____[ end ]____
> #
> ==============
> but my PMMail is installed on the UNIXROOT drive. The drive letter
> would be required if it was on a different drive. There is also the
> complication, that some people insist on putting their account
> directories on a different drive than either the program, or
> UNIXROOT. PMMail runs in the Accounts directory (and there can
> be multiple Accounts directories, possibly on different drives).
>
> I don't know what the best approach is, but the user should have the
> final say about what gets configured. They may want to stay with
> the old PMMail version of ASpell too.
>
> To get past the current problem, it should be okay to just add the
> UNIXROOT drive letter to the above. I am pretty sure that some
> people will be unhappy, but such is life.
>
> Neil is the project manager, so he gets to say what to do about it.

I'm fine with fixing this right away. I will issue Beta 4 once it is 
checked in.

best regards,
Neil

-- 
Neil Waldhauer  neil at blondeguy dot com  www.blondeguy dot com
Expert consulting for OS/2 Warp, ArcaOS and eComStation


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