Hello Charles ! ***WARNING: LONG MESSAGE COMING AHEAD*** Stop by, get some cigarettes -if any- , coffee or coke and a sandwich. Nice to hear (read) from you again. Yes - indeed IBM has a minotaur-style labyrinthic Model-numbering. Shall I try to bring some light into this desaster ? Were probably a good idea for a new page ...! I guess I should try. (Hehe !) Okay - the IBM modelnumbers have 7 digits - as their Part-Numbers have too. Strange. The Format is FFMM-ABC The FF is the family-number - still numeric. FF can be 21 = Entry Line / Aptiva / PS-Note 25 = ThinkPad (early models) 26 = ThinkPad (early models) 31 = System /370, /390, 3270-Host 32 = System /370, /390, 3270-Host 33 = Optical Storage 35 = Storage Subsystems 38 = System /34, /36, /38 or AS/400 equipment 40 = InfoWindow products 41 = misc. 42 = Printer, mainly ProPrinter family 44 = Tempest (Governmental / Security) 47 = 4700 Banking Systems 48 = PC jr. products 49 = Series /1 PCs 50 = CAD-equipment / tablets / lightpen 51 = PC, XT, AT 52 = 3270-Products (PC, Printer, Display) 53 = 3270-Products (PC, Printer, Display) 55 = XTC Industrial / local Japan PC 58 = Communication Eq. / modems 60 = PowerPC 61 = RT-PC series / tapes / plotters / small systems 62 = PC-300GL Series 63 = PS-Value Point 1 & 2 64 = PS-Value Point III 65 = PC-300 Series 68 = PC-700 Series 72 = cannot remember 73 = Color Plotter 75 = Industrial PC 81 = 8100-Equipment (Banking-Loop) 82 = Networking Equipment 85 = Personal System /2 86 = PC-Server Group 93 = Rackmounted Equipment 95 = PS-Premium Line The MM is the 'real' Model-Number - also still numeric. Too much to list. The PS/2 -the machines of our interest- often had a 'Marketing Name' and a Model/Type name as well: P70 = IBM PS/2 Portable 8573-xxx P75 = IBM PS/2 Advanced Portable 8573-4xx 55SX = IBM PS/2 8555 L40SX = IBM PS/2 Portable 8543 N33SX = IBM PS/2 Notebook 8533 CL57 = IBM PS/2 Color Notebook 8554 Server 500 = IBM PS/2 Server 8640 ThinkPad TP710T = IBM 2523 PC-330 = IBM Desktop-PC 6576 ... and so on. Then come the Type- and Equipment code -ABC. 3 alphanumeric digits. In the beginning the IBM gave out any number in the order of developement. The AT 5170 for example had the models - 068 "AT-01" 1 DD, 0 HD --/--MB, 80286-6, 256K - 099 "AT-01" 1 DD, 1 HD 20MB, 80286-6, 256K - 239 "AT-02" 1 DD, 1 HD 20MB, 80286-6, 512K - 319/339 "AT-03" 1 DD, 1 HD 20/30MB, 80286-8, 512K After a while IBM decided that it were a good idea to give infos about the machine in this 3-digit typecode. -ABC -AB = Size of Harddisk in MB without last digit C = Number of diskdrives For example: 8530-002 = Mod. 30, 2 diskdrives, no harddisk 8555-061 = Mod. 55, 1 diskdrive, 60MB harddisk 8580-111 = Mod. 80, 1 diskdrive, 111 MB harddisk 8570-A21 = Mod. 70, 1 diskdrive, 120 MB harddisk ... wait a moment ! Yes: after some time this doesn't work anymore. There were so many models with different cpu's and harddisks out. For a while this scheme was repeated with i.e.: 8570-061 = Mod. 70, 386-16MHz, 1 DD, 60MB HD 8570-F61 = Mod. 70, 386-20MHz, 1 DD, 60MB HD 8570-121 = Mod. 70, 386-20MHz, 1 DD, 120MB HD 8570-A21 = Mod. 70, 386-25MHz, 1 DD, 120MB HD 8570-A16 = Mod. 70, 386-25MHz, 1 DD, 160MB HD ... err ?! Correct ! 8570-R21 = Mod. 70, 486-25MHz, 1 DD, 120MB HD 8570-R16 = Mod. 70, 486-25MHz, 1 DD, 160MB HD ... uh - again ! 8555-LT0 = Mod. 55, 386SX-16, 2MB, 1DD, no HD, TR-Adapter installed (Argh !) 8555-LE0 = Mod. 55, 386SX-16, 2MB, 1DD, no HD, Ethernet Adapter (Eck !) Not to forget: 8555-XT0 = Mod. 55, 386SX-16, 2MB, no DD, no HD, Token-Ring (aaaahahaha !) -The famous 'Medialess Workstation'- Servicing one causes nervous breakdowns. More oddities: Model 90 / 95 numbering -ABC 0 = Standard / 8MB A = nationalized Version / 16MB V01 = Server / 16MB / 800 MB HD G = 486SX-20 H = 486SX-20 expandable J = 486SX-25 K = 486DX-33 L = 486DX/2-33/66 M = 486DX-50 9 = 160MB HD D = 320MB HD F = 400MB HD T = 1GB HD You feel somewhat gooey ? Me too. And I had to deal with that stuff. It was a bad situation. IBM decided later to assume that a diskdrive is installed and changed the first digit to be memory- and OS-dependent, changed the whole naming system and take the last digit from the Model-Family to give details. The first Value-Points had the advantage: 638x=ValuePoint - where x is 1 = /Si energy-saver model 2 = 3 x 3 Desktop (3 slots, 3 bays) 4 = 5 x 5 Desktop (5 slots, 5 bays) 7 = 8 x 7 Minitower (8 slots, 7 bays) The Type-digits give the Processor, the memory and the HD-capacity ..... Guess I'll stop here. Now ... if you're not feeling too bad, let's talk a bit about Token-Ring. The bad news at first: You need a sort of 'Hub'. In IBM Technoslovakian this thing is called 'Multi-Access Unit' (MAU). The most common number is 8228-001. This is a plain old passive unit which needs no AC-power. Many companies throw these units out now, because they are not 'manageable' over software-tools. The newer active MAUs, like 8230 are manageable - so the old 8228s have to go. That's a 8-port unit with IBM data-connector, 1 Ring-In and 1 Ring-Out to cascade several MAUs up to the maximum of 240 stations per segment. There are some compatibles on the market, ie. from AMP, which have 2, 4, 8 or even 16 ports, RJ45-models are available too. Token Ring uses a collision-free protocol (unlike to Ethernet - using CSMA/CD which has collisions). It usually runs on a shielded twisted pair cable (STP - IBM Type 1 or 3) or -on newer systems- on unshielded twisted pair (UTP - RJ45). Usually the connector on the 'original' adapters is Sub-D 9 pin socket, compatibles and modern IBM have often both: Sub-D and RJ45. The 8228-MAU has IBM connectors .... these are hermaphrodites (no sex please) so they are plug and socket at once. The IBM plugs are somewhat expensive. The cabling is simple and requires just a larger plier. The Sub-D has to be soldered as usual ... one can build a TR-cable at home - I do this very often. The cable might be a any good STP-cable ... or single-screened phone-cable for distances up to 30 feet. The topology (physically) is a star - from the MAU to the stations with a single cable. Logically it is a ring - 2 in one to be exact: one main-ring and one backbone. Therefore 4 wires. A failure in one adapter or cable causes the MAU to drop only that connection but leave the rest active. Unlike to Ethernet, where sometimes larger segments of the net are dead. No need to have a dedicated server. Win95 or Windows for Workgroups runs fine on TR-Net. 16Mb/s cards can be configured to run at 4Mb/s ... 4Mb/s cards cannot run in a 16Mb/s net. You must decide. 4M-cards are cheap. The speed is reasonable anyway. Enough to copy data between machines or even running entire programs from a machine acting as server at the moment. (some minor obstacles...). Eeeech ... I didn't notice that your face turned green meanwhile ... is it so bad ? You should have pressed CTRL-C sometime to stop me. Your luck that my girl wants to go to bed ... and not without me. (Who else ?) If there are more questions .... and I bet they are (now) ... leave me another note. Very friendly greetings from chaotic Peter from Germany "And you thought the people aren't taking acid anymore ..."